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BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017
« on: August 13, 2010, 19:55:38 »
my name is Dustin
i'm 15 and looking to hopefully join the cf
i am worried about BMQ though, i've watched basic up and researched on the web about the cf and what you do in BMQ. i'm just wondering if theres anything i can do to prepare i'm athletic and i'm starting to jog more and do push ups as well as sit ups everyday. i'm just wondering if there is anything i can do to mentally to prepare.

all help is appreciated
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2010, 19:58:41 »
i'm just wondering if there is anything i can do to mentally to prepare.


Yes. Quit worrying. If you dont, its going to be a long 2 years.


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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 20:00:23 »
alright thanks

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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2010, 20:39:53 »
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 11:24:48 »
Hello, first off thanks for taking the time to read this.
I'm a VERY recently sworn in Pte hoping to join the 8CH as a reservist while I go to Paramedic Academy.
I have done 1 weekend of BMQ and I hate it, and I love it. I love the fact I am learning so much, I love the that fact it can be rewarding and the fact I have in a weekend met so many new friends. I love the Physical aspect of it. Just I find myself barely surviving morning inspections. I do my best to help out my team and have my stuff in order but never having anyone in my family in the military I never had a dose of military life. Mentally I can handle the late night and early mornings its just the constant feeling of my instructors down my throat like everything I do seems wrong, I know they are trying to help me but can someone please tell me from past experience if it gets any easier or worse.
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 11:29:25 »
Get easier, especially when you realize they're not trying to take it out on you for personal reasons.

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 11:31:09 »
never having anyone in my family in the military I never had a dose of military life.

Many people who join are just like you. You are not the first one. If "a taste of military life" was necessary, it would be on the application.

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It is not. Quit your bellyaching. Either carry on or get out.

Theres more to military life than BMQ but you have to get through this first. Its up to you to find a way to deal with it.

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please tell me from past experience if it gets any easier or worse

We are not your mother that will tell you "there there it will get better soon".......Only you can make it better or worse. Right now, your attitude is making it worse.

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 11:38:14 »
Whether it gets easier or worse will depend on you and your attitude. If you adopt an outlook thinking they are "down my throat like everything I do seems wrong", then it probably won't get any easier for you. But if you focus on things like "I love the fact I am learning so much, I love the that fact it can be rewarding and the fact I have in a weekend met so many new friends. I love the Physical aspect of it." then you may just find yourself excelling and enjoying it.

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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 11:51:38 »
Don't overthink stuff or make things like inspections personal.

There is a reason for the inspections, yelling, stress.

- inspections help foster teamwork and attention to detail.  Why are they making you be so anal about how clean your boots are?  So you will pay that much attention to detail when cleaning weapons, radios or servicing a vehicle.  Now you know 1 "why".  Stop asking that question and get on with the 'doing'.

- yelling/stress, there is a reason.  You are going to be in a Res unit that crews 'some kind of vehicle'.  The vehicle will at some point have you as the driver, and someone called a Crew Commander will be in charge.  You drive where/how they say.  WHEN things are busy in that vehicle, say doing any kind of tactical movement cross-country, with a radio going, people talking inside it indicating contacts, etc...lets say the Crew Commander sees a rock, or trench, or something that must be avoided he or she WILL yell at you.  "HARD RIGHT!!!!!" or "STOP!!!!!!!!" or something.  You need to REACT, and in cases like that without hesitation.  There's one reason yelling is something you should get used to. 

Here's my advice for you.  Take the panty hose off, put the combat pants on, and feel around your back for your spine.  Give yourself time to be conditioned to the training, and don't ask "why", you are NOT there to assess, you are there to perform.  Don't take stuff personal, and you'll should fine as long as you are performing to your best.

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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 12:38:00 »
Thank you all of you for your quick replies. I'm going to stick with it, In my regular job I'm used to stress and having to perform as people's life are at risk there too. I get it Man up or go home. Looks like I have some adapting to do
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 12:48:06 »
and just so you know - it will get easier and harder at points over the years but in the end should be worth it.  When the harder overshadows the easier you will know it is time to pack it in.
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 13:01:15 »
You've also stated a big problem....you've "done 1 weekend of BMQ".

Give it time.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 16:15:26 »
True, I appreciate the well rounded answers, I think I'd be dissapointed if it was easy. My school isn't easy, and I guess life isn't easy. I appreciate the advice and the kick in the butt. I'll see this thru.
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 17:48:26 »
I share your worries bud. I'm starting on Feb 8th i think and im about as prepared as a deer in headlights. This should be fun. Lemme know how your doing. Remeber, we're all in this together. I'm pulling for yah.
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 18:08:11 »
Stop the handwringing. You'll work yourselves into a tizzy
You're acting like a bunch of little girls.

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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 18:18:09 »
As someone still here, finishing the end of my BMOQ - take a few deep breaths. Be in the best shape you can, take everything the staff say and learn from it (do you really think they WANT to make you miserable?).  The stress is part of the process - if you can't handle someone yelling at you now, how can you possibly handle a combat situation?

There is a reason you can't quit in the first 5 weeks - you need time to adjust to the realities of the military experience.  Things get better the more you put into it.
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 19:48:27 »
(do you really think they WANT to make you miserable?). 

Actually, I'm pretty sure they do!   ;D

In all seriousness.  Hang in there.  Don't take it personally.  It does get better and remember that the staff's actual goal is to graduate, not fail, as many trainees as possible.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2012, 11:02:03 »


 Either way inspection and getting yelled at isn't supposed to be fun.  And you are missing a big point of the experience by coming onto these forums to get your support.  There are a couple dozen guys on course with you that are experiencing the same things as you.  Suck it up and take the troops around you and start learning how to work and live as a team.  And here are a couple things to keep in mind.

-Inspection will never be good enough, but you can hope for a simple "needs improvement"

-It is not personal.  If you mess up you mess up.  If your teammate messes up, you mess up.  If the super bowl doesn't go the way the staff wants it to go, you mess up.  You are an emotional punching bag for the duration of your training.  Because you need to learn to work and concentrate under stress, constant stress, no matter from what angle it is coming at you from

-You are learning to be a soldier, not a daycare nurse.  Sympathy, rationale, and common sense do not always need to be a part of the equation. Soldiering on does.

-Earn your respect, don't expect it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2012, 11:29:01 »
rationale, and common sense do not always need to be a part of the equation.

Yes.

Yes they do.
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2012, 11:43:54 »
.... you need to learn to work and concentrate under stress, constant stress, no matter from what angle it is coming at you from
True, but....
.... rationale, and common sense do not always need to be a part of the equation ....
... I hope this isn't the case.
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 12:00:05 »
Yes.

Yes they do.

Let me rephase.  I should have specified that you getting jacked up and yelled at do not need to meet those criteria,  your personal work does however,  sorry for the misonception.

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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2012, 12:50:05 »
Let me rephase.  I should have specified that you getting jacked up and yelled at do not need to meet those criteria,  your personal work does however,  sorry for the misonception.

Still not right there. If a candidate is getting "jacked up and yelled at" it should be for a reason that meets those criteria. You may not understand how meeting timings is common sense yet or how having your pers kit squared away is logical but in the culture that you are joining, namely that of the CF, they are. If instructors are yelling and "jacking up" people without any sense or rationale, then they are not doing their jobs effectively. It is possible that the rationale in a given circumstance might be to increase pressure to see how you react but there should always be a reason. You goal as a recruit is to react to what they are telling you to do and then later reflect and try to take a lesson out of it. Sometimes, it may not be until much later in your career that certain incidents on BMQ/BMOQ start to make sense to you.

I would highly recommend the book Starship Troopers for more on the nature of "basic" training. The movie was horrible but the book is outstanding and on many professional reading lists for a reason (including the Infantry School's if I am not mistaken).

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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2012, 13:18:24 »
I would highly recommend the book Starship Troopers for more on the nature of "basic" training. The movie was horrible but the book is outstanding and on many professional reading lists for a reason (including the Infantry School's if I am not mistaken).

But the shower scene in that movie was outstanding!  If only we adopted that approach. ;D
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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2013, 09:41:16 »
I am wondering if anyone knows of a policy anywhere that states that members (in this case reservists) are not authorized to stay overnight in the field on unit exercises if they have not completed BMQ Land/SQ.  I have been told that members with BMQ and QL3 but lacking BMQ(L) can participate in field exercises, but are not authorized to stay overnight in the field.  I have been looking for relevant policy/regulations supporting this position but have thus far been unsuccessful.  I was just wondering if anyone has any information regarding this issue, whether or not members are allowed to participate in reserve unit field exercises (staying in the field overnight) without having completed BMQ(L).


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Re: BMQ Reserves 2010 - 2017 [Merged]
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2013, 10:16:42 »
I am not sure where it is found, but I know when I was a reservist with just BMQ ( I did not have BMQL) I could go on a field ex and stay over night but only if I was doing GD work and staying @ HQ but wasnt allowed in the feild at all.