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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2010, 13:20:41 »
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2010, 17:27:20 »
You know you've got 2 posts, and both take a shot at the puzzle palace workers. Obviously you have a bone to pick with the high numbers of staff people in Ottawa, so why not just start that topic, instead of throwing up a random post about Kilted RegF Infantry units to cover shots at NDHQ.

I found this forum by accident while looking for other information.

I am completely new to these types of forums / blogs? etc.. So, bear with my learning curve.   I seemed to remember a ‘study’ that was done a short while before I retired that suggested that there was a need to have significantly more ‘feet on the ground’.  After I posted my comment I did a little looking and found a paper from 1994.

1994 White Paper;
p. 75. The Government agrees with the Special Joint Committee that the land force must be expanded. Approximately 3,000 soldiers will be added to the army's field force. Additional resources will be provided through reductions in headquarters, restructuring of the three environments and a reduction in the size of the Reserves.

I have absolutely nothing against head office personnel. I finished my career as one. 

I am wondering if the 3000 soldiers were added to the field force?
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2010, 18:44:30 »
Brother, you're suggesting the regular force form a regiment wearing something that's hugely identified as a reservist piece of kit?

They'd mutney ;)
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2010, 20:14:04 »
dpaterson,,
exactly what ethnic group was Canada pandering to in regard's to joining the war
effort be it boer/ww1/ww2/korea.... Hmmmm. Scots/Welsh/Irish???????
If I remember my history(canadian) all of those ethnic group's were a part of the
Common wealth. They were not pandered/asked/conscripted. they didn't have to
be pandered to they were allready serving.
As for forming a Regiment (kilted) we dont have to. All we have to to is reactivate
a Regiment deactivated like oh say the Seaforth Highlander's(canada) or the
Queen's Own Cameron Highlander's(Winnepeg) or or or .
redeye thanks.
blackadder1912 right on lad.
shamrock concur.
Have you ever wondered why the viking's gave up raiding said (kilted) land like
Scotland and other (kilted) country's. We kicked thier collective ***.
In other word's we were more buserker than said viking's(hint)(hint) paterson.
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2010, 07:28:07 »
Good points about them being commonwealth in the past.

We could make ethnic regiments in the past that catered to a certain group because those people were joining the Infantry in droves anyway so it made sense.

For those of you in the Reserves in a large city who think that is a representation of what Reg Force units are like and we're a massively diverse Infantry, I've got some news for you.

Despite equal and accommodating hiring practices, a Reg Force infantry unit is still made up of predominantly white males.  Yes you will still see a few women, black, and other non-whites, but the truth is what it is and without knowing the exact numbers I would not hesitate to bet it was over 90% white males.

What does this mean?  It means that the Infantry brand is something that white males buy into.  And if we start watering that down (the brand, I don't mean the race), it means we will lose our target market.

If we start messing around with units in order to make them more diverse, it would be like Chevrolet starting to market the Corvette toward old women instead of middle aged businessmen.  Do you know what would happen?  Yes, they might sell 100 more cars to old women, but they would lose 10,000 sales because their target market would see the commercials and think "wow, that's really not for me".
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2010, 07:55:33 »
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:warstory: Oh,"Down Home" isn't too difficult to learn, back in the day in London, the whole battalion spoke it fluently.  Even those that weren't from Down Home.  So fluently in fact, I seem to remember one spectacular dressing-down because the subject had answered, "Yes b'y" to a CSM.  I think the lad was from Ottawa.  Even the servers at Timmies on Oxford St. learned it, and spoke it.

I also remember a certain eight-fingered Sgt. in the INT Sect., re-badged in from The PPCLI, who grew to "appreciate" the phrase, "LOR' TUNNERIN'.. (fill in the blank)!!!"
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2010, 08:26:14 »
Laird Tunderin bye, yer right!  When I came home to Eastern Ontario on leave from "the First of the Finest", the only person who could understand me was my Irish Catholic mother.  All my friends though I was drunk!

Something similar. When I went to the RCA Depot for recruit training, I was put in a room with three Cape Bretoners. I still lapse into Cape speak on occasion. Back home on leave in the Niagara Peninsula, the only person who could catch everything I said was a girl in high school whose father had been a dental officer and her previous place of residence was Lincoln, NB.

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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2010, 00:47:56 »
We are actually moving the other way in the Reserve world; the three service battalions in 31 CBG have become a singular 31 SVC BN.

It isn't too hard to imagine the two tiny reserve armoured "regiments" becoming 31 Armoured Regt, two tiny artillery "regiments" melding into 31 Field RCA and the six company sized infantry regiments scattered about SW Ontario becoming 31 Light Infantry Bn (Motor Infantry Bn if you are ambitious).

Given the actual numbers of troops being fielded, this would rationalize the numbers of headquarters and devote more resources to the armoury floor (in the ideal world anyway).

I am pretty sure this idea was seriously considered in the 1990's, and before we hear the "we will loose our traditions/people will quit" arguments, think about the turnover in the average Reserve unit. In five years, something like 80% of all the people who were in at the time of the change will be gone, and the majority of soldiers will think "A Coy, 31 Light Infantry Bn (Essex and Kent) is the normal and natural state of affairs.
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2010, 00:58:30 »
YES!
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2010, 06:26:28 »
What about the 38 Mess Tin Repair Company? >:D
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Re: How about forming a Reg Force Kilted Regiment
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2010, 21:57:09 »
What about the 38 Mess Tin Repair Company? >:D

I'm pretty sure they are in LFWA  ;)
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