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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2010, 19:50:09 »
Follow the instructions guys, and we should all be alright!

Did you guys have your swearing-in ceremonies yet? I have mine on the 6th!

Look forward to meeting you on the 15th!

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2010, 13:32:17 »
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You guys/girls got to learn to read all information provided to you and to do research on your own........
I've read the list a dozen times maybe, but it doesn't say wether those are the ONLY things you may bring.  I am asking wether you can bring additional items.  I've got everything on the list ready, but I don't know whether the list is inclusive or exclusive.  An example I already brought up was additional clothing items, but it could be extended to reading material, religious texts like a bible or the Koran, hell even a deck of cards.

Anyway, it's a legitimate question.  I can always just ask my recruiter over the phone.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2010, 13:34:52 »
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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2010, 13:59:02 »
I've read the list a dozen times maybe, but it doesn't say wether those are the ONLY things you may bring.  I am asking wether you can bring additional items.  I've got everything on the list ready, but I don't know whether the list is inclusive or exclusive.  An example I already brought up was additional clothing items, but it could be extended to reading material, religious texts like a bible or the Koran, hell even a deck of cards.

Anyway, it's a legitimate question.  I can always just ask my recruiter over the phone.

 ::)

I really begin to have my doubts as to whether or not some of the people posting here, aspiring to become officers in the CF, really have what it takes.  We have numerous topics covering these questions on what one is supposed to bring on Course/BMQ/BMOQ/St Jean/ad nauseum.  The LIST is given to you.  READ the LIST.  DO WHAT THE LIST SAYS.  If in doubt, READ the topics here on what to bring.


IN THE END it is going to boil down to how much luggage you will be able to carry with you.  If it isn't on the LIST, and you already have too much luggage, then DON'T BRING IT.  If you have everything on the LIST and spare room in your luggage, perhaps you can bring it.  If it is on the LIST, and you do not have it, be prepared to have a detailed explanation as to why you did not bring it.

You are joining the military.  You are an adult (I hope).  So start thinking like a future military person and follow directions as given (It will be reflected on your PER).  This is not Rocket Science.


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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2010, 14:11:28 »
And note that it says:

Personal Items Men And Women Qty
 
Hair net  (If necessary) 1
Hairpins  x
Sport Bras 3

So y'all better have them, or else..,

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2010, 15:13:44 »
You can bring extra kit. 

There are a few prohibited items you cannot bring with you to CFLRS.  I don't know these myself but I recommend all candidates find out what they positively cannot bring.  Yes, your kit will undergo inspection on arrival for contraband. 

You will travel in civy clothing, so you will obviously bring with you a warm jacket to a winter serial.  You'll want to bring with you a change of clothes or two, but I encourage you to pack as though you were going for a short weekend.  Evenings and CB weekends, you will be wearing either PT gear, combats, or coveralls.  Personal electronics, to include cell phones, lap tops, music players, tablets, ebook readers, etc. may not be permitted by your course staff.  Other personal items such as books, decks of cards, Swedish penis pumps, etc. are generally permitted.  Be prepared to have various personal liberties curtailed.

A few things to keep in mind are time and space.  If your course has a storage space, it is for the entire course, and not just for you.  If your course does not have a storage space, you will have to stuff your kit into your issued kit bags, under your bed and/or into a coursemate's car.  In sum, you cannot pack for every contingency and you cannot pack 6 changes of clothes for every weekend.

That said, you will be on course for a very long time.  On completion of BMOQ, you will be immediately sent off to either EWAT, BMOQ-L/NETPO and/or DP 1.  Pack what you will require to maintain your morale during this time, bearing in mind the space every thing takes and the possibility of replenishment during weekends and leave periods.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2010, 16:00:18 »
Other personal items such as books, decks of cards, Swedish penis pumps, etc. are generally permitted.  Be prepared to have various personal liberties curtailed.



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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2010, 15:35:36 »
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You can bring extra kit. 

There are a few prohibited items you cannot bring with you to CFLRS.  I don't know these myself but I recommend all candidates find out what they positively cannot bring.  Yes, your kit will undergo inspection on arrival for contraband. 

You will travel in civy clothing, so you will obviously bring with you a warm jacket to a winter serial.  You'll want to bring with you a change of clothes or two, but I encourage you to pack as though you were going for a short weekend.  Evenings and CB weekends, you will be wearing either PT gear, combats, or coveralls.  Personal electronics, to include cell phones, lap tops, music players, tablets, ebook readers, etc. may not be permitted by your course staff.  Other personal items such as books, decks of cards, Swedish penis pumps, etc. are generally permitted.  Be prepared to have various personal liberties curtailed.

A few things to keep in mind are time and space.  If your course has a storage space, it is for the entire course, and not just for you.  If your course does not have a storage space, you will have to stuff your kit into your issued kit bags, under your bed and/or into a coursemate's car.  In sum, you cannot pack for every contingency and you cannot pack 6 changes of clothes for every weekend.

That said, you will be on course for a very long time.  On completion of BMOQ, you will be immediately sent off to either EWAT, BMOQ-L/NETPO and/or DP 1.  Pack what you will require to maintain your morale during this time, bearing in mind the space every thing takes and the possibility of replenishment during weekends and leave periods.
Thanks, that's pretty much exactly what I needed to know.  I'll double check on a couple items with my recruiter first as well.

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Yeah, typo.  Considering I typed it correctly in a different place in the same post, I think it's safe to say I know the word.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2010, 15:40:35 »
Thanks, that's pretty much exactly what I needed to know.  I'll double check on a couple items with my recruiter first as well.

 ;D  He was being a little on the sarcastic side.



Now being a little bit of a  >:D


Yeah, typo.  Considering I typed it correctly in a different place in the same post, I think it's safe to say I know the word.

I've read the list a dozen times maybe, but it doesn't say wether those are the ONLY things you may bring.  I am asking wether you can bring additional items.  I've got everything on the list ready, but I don't know whether the list is inclusive or exclusive.  An example I already brought up was additional clothing items, but it could be extended to reading material, religious texts like a bible or the Koran, hell even a deck of cards.

Anyway, it's a legitimate question.  I can always just ask my recruiter over the phone.

You're only batting 33%.    ;D
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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2010, 15:51:52 »
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  He was being a little on the sarcastic side.
Hey, I don't mind a little sarcasm if I get my questions answered. :nod:

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You're only batting 33%.   
Stop being such an ***.  :P

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2010, 16:43:36 »
Stop being such an ***.  :P

Good old George Wallace. There is no escape from his judgement :( hehehe

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2010, 17:02:41 »
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Good old George Wallace. There is no escape from his judgement  hehehe
Meh, he's not so bad.  Just a bit grouchy.  ;D

alejo, you flying or taking a bus to St. Jean?  I thought I remembered you being from Ottawa, but not sure now.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2010, 17:11:05 »
Good old George Wallace. There is no escape from his judgement :( hehehe

In a thread about Basic Officer Qual, I'd say he's spot on expecting a wee bit more from prospective Officer candidates in the field of grammar and syntax.

Get used to it troops because you'll be hearing all about it in your career, if and when you are accepted. I foresee a great amount of red ink on your paperwork when you submit it to your BC just from what I've read in this thread alone.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2010, 17:24:28 »
In a thread about Basic Officer Qual, I'd say he's spot on expecting a wee bit more from prospective Officer candidates in the field of grammar and syntax.

Get used to it troops because you'll be hearing all about it in your career, if and when you are accepted. I foresee a great amount of red ink on your paperwork when you submit it to your BC just from what I've read in this thread alone.

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Did I make a typo somewhere?
I thought my spell checking was on  >:D
I guess all those philosophy courses did not help me at all for my grammar. I blame the excess of numbers in my degree!!! ;D


alejo, you flying or taking a bus to St. Jean?  I thought I remembered you being from Ottawa, but not sure now.

Yes, I am coming from Ottawa. I wanted to take the train, but there is no service on the 15th. So the only other option is the bus, unless I can get a ride from someone. How about you?


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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2010, 17:29:20 »
Did I make a typo somewhere?
I thought my spell checking was on  >:D
I guess all those philosophy courses did not help me at all for my grammar. I blame the excess of numbers in my degree!!! ;D

You have too many numbers in your degree?
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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2010, 17:33:08 »
I did Math, so I did not get to work on my written skills that much.  :blotto:
 That's why I took some philosophy courses to work on that, but they are probably not as strict as other humanities. I could be wrong though!

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2010, 17:51:29 »
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How about you?
I assume I'm flying from Toronto, seeing as I'm from Niagara.  I'll get my travel arrangements on the 7th.

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Did I make a typo somewhere?
I thought my spell checking was on
I think he was still referring to my typing of whether.  Your post is ok.

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Get used to it troops because you'll be hearing all about it in your career, if and when you are accepted. I foresee a great amount of red ink on your paperwork when you submit it to your BC just from what I've read in this thread alone.
I'm usually a decent speller actually, I guess it's just easy to get lazy on the web. 

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2010, 18:22:07 »
Actually I was speaking in general terms about this thread.

I could care less about your degree.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2010, 19:40:04 »
Actually I was speaking in general terms about this thread.

I could care less about your degree.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2011, 21:53:54 »
So the only other option is the bus, unless I can get a ride from someone. How about you?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the CF provides the transportation for everything, as long as it's duty related. Since you are going to BMOQ (read: training), they should have provided a bus/plane/train ticket for you.

That being said, if you have the option to drive, DRIVE! If you don't have a car, convice someone else on course to bring theirs, and become their friend! I know it's a little far from Niagara (I'm from southern Ontario as well), but having your car to be able to drive into Montreal (or wherever) on weekends (once you aren't CB'd) makes a huge difference. My car was the best piece of personal kit I brought to basic.
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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2011, 16:47:59 »
Hello Guys

Its been a month I havent logged on this website. I started my BMOQ on Jan 17th 2011. We just returned from War Museum Ottawa marking end of indoctrination.

Few tips: Keep your mouth shut. OPen only to eat or when asked. Push ups guys. DO as many pushups and squats. Run like crazy. The more you are in shape the better basic is. We are having 3.2 KM ruck sack march on Monday and then start 2 weeks of weapons training along with drill test to get the cap badge.

Hey guys when I entered CFLRS I looked like a street idiot and now I am sharp. Many have done this and we are 600 people doing it right now. Anyone can do it just be in shape and play safe.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2011, 14:48:49 »
Few tips: Keep your mouth shut. Open only to eat or when asked. Push ups guys. DO as many pushups and squats. Run like crazy. The more you are in shape the better basic is. We are having 3.2 KM ruck sack march on Monday and then start 2 weeks of weapons training along with drill test to get the cap badge.

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Hi ,
Thanks for tips.Especially about fitness.
What about average age? Are there people over 35 ?
Which %?
I am not young too. :)

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2011, 11:55:28 »
Hi ,
Thanks for tips.Especially about fitness.
What about average age? Are there people over 35 ?
Which %?
I am not young too. :)

Our platoon average age is 32. So yeah there are lots of people over 35. I am 27 and I am one of the younger ones strangely enough. However, I think that this is something very unique to our platoon from what I see in the other ones.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2011, 14:22:49 »
Our platoon average is 32 yrs. The training is pretty demanding and the major thing is just listen to details. They dont expect you to be soldiers off the bet but they groom you to be and the major thing is details. If you get your head out of the *** then you can be excellent and do that from day 1. I regret that I could not get in motion until 2 weeks but now I am above the average of the platoon. The staff can be jerks at times but they dont give you personally.

A few funny things with our platoon is that we could not get together as team and guess what we were moved from our personal rooms to cubicles and given only 1 hr to pack and unpack. Our platoon is famous all over CFLRS and we get crap from everyone but a week and Farnham changed us and we are now a good platoon. Remember its a mind game to frig you up but if you play with the staff they will like you otherwise you will be a crap show. I hope I am cut and dry and clear as mud HAHA

There is rumour around here that the NCM training is now 10 weeks and Officer is 11 weeks that means no more field training. This starts in April not sure if this is rumour but there is a thick talk around this. Will find out pretty soon. Got to go to Farnham tomorrow for couple days then we start drill test and Major's inspection and CF Express. Please traini and train hard so that you dont injured. I am sure you will not enjoy the trailer stay at CFLRS if you are injured.

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Re: BASIC MILITARY OFFICER QUALIFICATION BMOQ Jan 2011
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2011, 14:59:07 »
Thanks  lguysetsdoit   and   alejo   for your information and stories.I believe a lot of people appreciated your advices and information.
About fitness is really clear- "train and train hard ".

May be more about relationship between  the staff and  recruits. How to survive there?
In my mind moovie like "Full Metall Jacket"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Nf1MK7lts
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