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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2010, 12:19:26 »
Through the Canadian looking-glass in the WikiLeaks war
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2010, 15:25:08 »
Yep, Wikileaks documents are well known to contain worms. For an org that is so against the things they leak, they sure do a lot of it themselves.

Please cite something of merit to back this up, because I'm pretty convinced it's complete bull.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2010, 15:36:06 »
Interesting.

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Ex-Harper adviser should be charged: Assange


03/12/2010 12:46:49 PM
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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says a former adviser to Prime Minister Stephen Harper should face criminal charges for suggesting that the Australian whistleblower should be killed.

During an online interview with London's Guardian newspaper, Assange commented on Tom Flanagan's recent suggestion that he "should be assassinated" for his role in the public release of U.S. diplomatic cables.

"It is correct that Mr. Flanagan and the others seriously making these statements should be charged with incitement to murder," Assange told the Guardian website on Friday.

Flanagan, who previously served as Harper's chief of staff, has already apologized for the controversial remarks he made earlier this week while appearing on a political talk show.

During the show, Flanagan suggested that U.S. President Obama "should put out a contract or maybe use a drone or something" to kill Assange.

Appearing on the same program a day later, Flanagan apologized for his "thoughtless, glib remark about a serious subject."

Flanagan said he "never seriously intended to advocate or propose the assassination of Mr. Assange."

Assange has come under fire in recent days after WikiLeaks began publishing an initial wave of diplomatic cables to its website on Sunday. It plans to put 250,000 such documents on the Internet over time.

At the moment, Swedish authorities are seeking to question Assange "in connection with a number of sexual offences," according to an Interpol news release. The 39-year-old has denied that he has done anything wrong.

Additionally, the United States has made notice that it has "an active, ongoing criminal investigation" into the release of its diplomatic cables.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2010, 16:27:05 »
 Then I should face charges too
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2010, 17:08:07 »
Please cite something of merit to back this up, because I'm pretty convinced it's complete bull.
Assange and lots of the wikilinks "freedom fighters" are former or active hackers. Assange is well documented for it. Why is it hard to believe they have worms in the docs?

Honest question.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2010, 17:31:42 »
Interesting.

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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says a former adviser to Prime Minister Stephen Harper should face criminal charges for suggesting that the Australian whistleblower should be killed.

Ironic is a more appropriate word.

Ironic that a self proclaimed champion of free speech would advocate criminal charges for what other say. Ironic as well that he hasn't come forward to face his own criminal charges at the same time.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2010, 17:34:34 »
Ironic that a self proclaimed champion of free speech would advocate criminal charges for what other say. Ironic as well that he hasn't come forward to face his own criminal charges at the same time.
and it's also hypocrisy that he proclaims that his location ought to be secret when he felt it was in the "greater good" to publish names of Coalition contacts in Afghanistan whilst the war is ongoing. 
So, there I was....

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2010, 19:49:34 »
Assange and lots of the wikilinks "freedom fighters" are former or active hackers. Assange is well documented for it. Why is it hard to believe they have worms in the docs?

Honest question.

Because they've consciously avoided illegal activities and to put a worm in a document that would search out and actually CAUSE leaks would be illegal. What they're doing now is essentially not illegal, as they weren't the ones who leaked the material.

And because as far as I know, you can't put a damn worm in an HTML file that's encoded so simply. To say that there's viruses in the documents they're releasing is blatant fear mongering without a basis aside from your conspiratorial thoughts.

Lastly, demonizing someone for being a "former or active hacker" is pretty lame, considering many 'hackers' (I'd venture to say the majority) are actively engaged in network security operations - especially the most famous former hackers who have served time. For example - the hacker who blew the whistle on Bradley Manning, Adrian Lamo. See also Mitnick, Poulsen, Abene, Tappan Morris, etc. etc.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2010, 20:14:14 »
For every white hat you can name, I bet you'll find there are 5 black hats you don't know about who they are trying to defend against.

Assange has made it his mission to gather information, and he clearly doesn't care that its classified material. Yes, some of the leaks were intentional, but I really doubt the corporate ones that he has (if he has any) were just given to him. He got them somehow, and dollars to donuts it was through a computer.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2010, 20:15:46 »
For every white hat you can name, I bet you'll find there are 5 black hats you don't know about who they are trying to defend against.

True.  Why else would they be hired?
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2010, 20:48:14 »
To say that there's viruses in the documents they're releasing is blatant fear mongering without a basis aside from your conspiratorial thoughts.

Lastly, demonizing someone for being a "former or active hacker" is pretty lame, considering many 'hackers' (I'd venture to say the majority) are actively engaged in network security operations - especially the most famous former hackers who have served time. For example - the hacker who blew the whistle on Bradley Manning, Adrian Lamo. See also Mitnick, Poulsen, Abene, Tappan Morris, etc. etc.

My conspirational thoughts? Thank you for the answer anyways. I dont know anything about this stuff.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2010, 09:00:46 »
The unintended lesson of WikiLeaks

The actions of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange are reckless, amoral, and dangerous. But Assange's bad actions do not invalidate the information contained in his leaks. If the publics of the Western democracies absorb this information, the world will become a better and safer place.

Start, for example, with what we can learn about the Israeli-Palestinian dispute.

Western governments have invested enormous time and money to negotiate an end to that conflict. They have tried to muscle Israel into greater concessions to the Palestinians, and tried to coax the Palestinians to accept those concessions. The peace process has failed because the Palestinians hope that if only they hold out a little longer, they will be offered even more.

We engage in these wearisome and elaborate proceedings because we assume that the Israeli-Palestinian dispute holds the key to regional peace. But now the whole world can see: It's not true. Governments in the region do not in fact care very much about the Israeli-Palestinian dispute. They are transfixed by Iran. They are terrorized by the threat of an Iranian nuclear weapon.

Which raises the question: If the Palestinian issue is so unimportant to the Middle East, why is it so important to us?

WikiLeaks raises the question: Why not say instead to the Palestinians, "You were offered a great deal in 2000 and 2001. You tried to get a better deal by going to war. You lost. So now it's your problem. Here's the telephone. You punch these little buttons when you are ready to talk. You negotiate the best deal you can. If you need a little cash to sweeten the terms, we'll contribute. Otherwise, we're focused on Iran, Pakistan and Turkey. Bye"?

That's the other side of WikiLeaks: Not only are we way over-invested in the Palestinian problem, but we are way under-invested in the problems of these three major countries.

WikiLeaks confirms and underscores the intransigence and belligerence of Iran. Iran has, for example, annexed the Islamic Red Crescent as an arm of Iranian foreign policy.

But you knew that. Here are two things maybe you didn't know: While the U.S. government describes Pakistan as a major non-NATO ally (a legal status that allows Pakistan to purchase sophisticated U.S. weapons), U.S. diplomats worry that Pakistan's nuclear arms are not secure -- and that Pakistan will not co-operate with U.S. efforts to enhance nuclear security.

Meanwhile, Turkey -- a NATO ally, a country that Canada is, by treaty, obliged to go to war to defend -- is allowing Iran to smuggle nuclear components across Turkish territory. This is the same Turkey that closed its bases to the United States during the Iraq war and that enables armed agitators to stage confrontations with the Israeli navy. What exactly does a country have to do to get itself kicked out of the club of Western allies? Has Turkey omitted any of those things? And has anybody noticed that Turkey no longer borders Russia, and so has ceased even to be of much use containing NATO's former adversary?
Meanwhile, of the countries in the Caucasus area that do actually border Russia, one (Georgia) is suffering Russian occupation of big chunks of its national territory, while another (Armenia) has supplied Iran with arms later used against U.S. soldiers in Iraq.
The organizers of Wikileaks say they wanted to blow the whistle on government fictions and expose the ugly realities. In a way they probably never intended, they have done just that. They have revealed that Iran is even more dangerous, Turkey even more hostile, Pakistan even more precarious and the Palestinians even more irrelevant than generally understood.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2010, 10:23:02 »
PayPal cuts WikiLeaks from money flow, making donations more difficult
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BERLIN - Online payment service provider PayPal says in a company blog it has cut off the account used by WikiLeaks to collect donations.

The company said in a blog posting the move was prompted by a violation of its policy, "which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity."

The short notice was dated Friday, and a spokeswoman for PayPal Germany on Saturday declined to elaborate and referred to the official blog posting.

Donating money to WikiLeaks via PayPal on Saturday was not possible anymore, generating an error message saying "this recipient is currently unable to receive money."

PayPal is one of several ways WikiLeaks collects donations.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2010, 20:49:52 »
I am not sure how seriously this question is being asked, but at least it is being asked.  From the front page of the paper version of the Ottawa Citizen:


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How far does the right to know extend?
 WikiLeaks a sign of press freedom, but also a danger

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December 4, 2010
 
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It has opened a window, in fact thousands of them, large and small on the inner workings of the U.S. government and its relations with Canada and the rest of the world.

The unprecedented posting of a massive WikiLeaks database of some 250,000 secret U.S. diplomatic cables is being hailed by some as the ultimate coup for investigative journalism and the cause of democratic transparency.

But critics, led by the victimized U.S. government itself, have condemned the document deluge as a crime akin to terrorism, one that could risk the lives of spies and their informants, undermine the foreign polices of the U.S. and its allies, or even spark a war.

The controversial disclosures are also raising profound questions about relationships between nations and discrepancies between governments' public positions and the confidential reports underlying them.

The dizzying array of debate topics sparked by the leaks ranges from the legitimacy of governments keeping official secrets at all to the potential criminality of Julian Assange -- WikiLeaks access-to-information maverick (or demon) -- in airing the dirty laundry of diplomats, democrats and despots.

And all the while, the world's mainstream media organizations are hungrily feeding on the revelations served up by Assange's organization, from consular officials' petty, unguarded gossip about their host countries to potential bombshells such as secret Saudi cheerleading for a U.S. military attack on Iran.

"The cables," Assange said when the documents were released last Sunday, "show the U.S. spying on its allies and the UN, turning a blind eye to corruption and human rights abuse in client states, backroom deals with supposedly neutral countries and lobbying for U.S. corporations." But the immediate and potential damage to global diplomacy, says the head of Carleton University's foreign affairs program, is far too high a price to pay for the indiscriminate dump of WikiLeaks documents.

"I think we're beginning to see some of the collateral damage," said Fen Hampson, director of Carleton's Norman Paterson School of International Affairs, referring to leaked U.S. cables in which Canada's ambassador to Afghanistan, William Crosbie, is described slamming the corrupt electoral practices of Afghan President Hamid Karzai's regime.

The leak prompted Crosbie to offer his resignation this week.

"It wasn't that he wasn't doing his job -- he was doing exactly his job, reporting on meetings," Hampson said. "But these aren't the sort of comments that can withstand public scrutiny in the light of day." That makes the exposing of such documents, he argues, "corrosive" to Canada's foreign relations and to international diplomacy in general.

But Hampson says the danger runs deeper because the leaks will likely force governments to tightly restrict the distribution of information within foreign departments and the sharing of intelligence between agencies involved in battling terrorism.

"One of the reasons (the leak) happened was that in a post-9/11 U.S. environment, there was a desire to share information to prevent further attacks," he noted. "Information which, in the old days, would have been kept on a tighter distribution list obviously got on a much wider distribution list." Foreign intelligence sources, he notes, "will be much more careful about what they say" in front of American diplomats and their operatives as a "deep chill" on communication sets in following the WikiLeaks release.

Media outlets such as Britain's Guardian newspaper, which made arrangements with Assange to see the documents ahead of their wider release, have emphasized their efforts to avoid endangering any individual intelligence agents by censoring some details from their reports on the WikiLeaks cables.

Chris Waddell, the director of Carleton's School of Journalism and Communication, objected to the breathless reporting of more superficial or unsurprising details found in the leaked cables, such as one diplomat's unvarnished view of the vain Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's partying ways.

But other genuine revelations, he says, such as hints that China may be open to the peaceful reunification of the Koreas, will inform analyses of that situation and perhaps even help reshape foreign relations in the region.

"Is it in the public interest to know all these things?" Waddell asks. "Is it in the public interest not to know all these things? I would generally argue that it's in the public interest to know more than to know less." And despite acknowledging some troubling aspects of the WikiLeaks "dump" of the secret U.S. documents, Waddell says responsible reportage of the truly important disclosures should ultimately serve democracy if thoughtful analysis and probing journalism triumph over sensationalism.

But Hampson fears the fallout. While transparency and accountability are important values, he said, democratic countries "also need to keep some of their secrets" to function effectively on the global stage and to exercise influence in "a world that is not filled with democracies." Information may be the oxygen of democracy, he added, "but in an oxygen-rich environment, a spark can ignite a firestorm."

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2010, 20:58:31 »
Paypal has dropped wikileaks from their service. Should slow donations down a bit. :)

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2010, 21:00:01 »
The public has no right to secret information until such time that it has been unclassified.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2010, 07:08:53 »
The "rape" case against Assange is bizarre. Basically his condom broke during consensual sex and Sweden has some really strange new laws. Laws that are being applied retroactively in this case.  Anna Ardin claims that his celebrity status denoted an unequal power relationship so her sex was not consensual. He was exceedingly dumb for screwing over a radical feminist who had worked in diplomacy with friends in Washington.
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    I’ve been thinking about some revenge over the last few days and came across a very good side (Sofia Wilén, the other corner of the love triangle?) who inspired me to this seven-point revenge instruction in Swedish.

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    Steg 2 / Step 2
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    Steg 3 / Step 3
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    The principle of proportionality.
    A good revenge is linked to what has been done against you.
    For example if you want revenge on someone who cheated or who dumped you, you should use a punishment with dating/sex/fidelity involved.

    Steg 4 / Step 4
    Do a brainstorm of appropriate measures for the category of revenge you’re after. To continue the example above, you can sabotage your victim’s current relationship, such as getting his new partner to be unfaithful or ensure that he gets a madman after him.
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Send your victim a series of letters and photographs that make your victim’s new partner believe that you are still together which is better than to tell just one big lie on one single occasion

    Steg 6 / Step 6
    Rank your systematic revenge schemes from low to high in terms of likely success, required input from you, and degree of satisfaction when you succeed.
    The ideal, of course, is a revenge as strong as possible but this requires a lot of hard work and effort for it to turn out exactly as you want it to.

    Step 7 / Step 7
    And remember what your goals are while you are operating, ensure that your victim will suffer the same way as he made you suffer.

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With only about 700 cables released so far the US still looks great compared to the megalomaniacs, kleptocrats and fascist wannabes they have to deal with. Much of the information probably should not have been classified in the first place. I was not surprised by anything yet. The leaks have brought some very good information to people who usually don't care about such things (Iran). It also will give future administrations pause before breaking the rule of law.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
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« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2010, 07:39:11 »
Bwahahaha @ bdave
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2010, 08:00:49 »
I always found it ironic that the State Department spends so much time and energy keeping secrets from the State (the people).

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« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2010, 12:29:09 »
I personally don't find these "gossips" very funny. Not after a buddy of mine's had his name plastered all over the net because of these leaks.

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« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2010, 12:59:38 »
WikiLeak: “SCENESETTER FOR PRESIDENT BUSH’S VISIT TO CANADA, NOVEMBER 30 – DECEMBER 1, 2004″
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« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2010, 13:33:03 »

The state needs to be able to make candid assessments without offending the other state leaders. So, if Im a state, and I dont want constant conflict with another country I cant write down my honest assessment or create contingency plans? Because everyone has a right to know everything? Thats an incredibly irresponsible way for a government to conduct itself.

Its doesnt work at the most basic level for everyday people, having to air out everything, and it wont work for an effective government. More transparency like finances and such sure. State relations? Get bent.
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« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2010, 13:53:41 »
The state needs to be able to make candid assessments without offending the other state leaders. So, if Im a state, and I dont want constant conflict with another country I cant write down my honest assessment or create contingency plans? Because everyone has a right to know everything? Thats an incredibly irresponsible way for a government to conduct itself.

Its doesnt work at the most basic level for everyday people, having to air out everything, and it wont work for an effective government. More transparency like finances and such sure. State relations? Get bent.

We don't have to go very far in this matter to see this demonstrated.  Julian Assange doesn't like his dirtly laundry and personal information posted on the internet or in the news.  He has been bouncing around the world imposing himself on friends for the last few years trying to avoid being tracked by anyone.   He is avoiding Sweden now like the plague.
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