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All things Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

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Pierre Kory is an American critical care physician who gained attention during the COVID-19 pandemic for advocating widespread use of unproven drugs as treatments. Kory testified in front of the U.S. Senate twice regarding COVID-19. During his testimony on December 8, 2020, Kory erroneously claimed that the antiparasitic medication invermectin was a "wonder drug" with "miraculous effectiveness" against COVID-19.

Is this the same paper?
Your Wikipedia source is pretty weak compared to his actual credentials and the company he keeps, found here:

Here is an example of a Covid 19 Critical Care co-founder he works with, Dr. Marik:

Dr. Marik has special knowledge and training in a diverse set of medical fields, with specific training in Internal Medicine, Critical Care, Neurocritical Care, Pharmacology, Anesthesia, Nutrition, and Tropical Medicine and Hygiene. Dr. Marik is currently a tenured Professor of Medicine and Chief of the Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk, Virginia. Dr. Marik has written over 500 peer-reviewed journal articles, 80 book chapters and authored four critical care books. He has been cited over 43,000 times in peer-reviewed publications and has an H-index of 77. He has delivered over 350 lectures at international conferences and visiting professorships. He has received numerous teaching awards, including the National Teacher of the Year award by the American College of Physicians in 2017. He is the 2nd most published critical care physician in the world ever, and is a world renowned expert in the management of sepsis – his contributions to the understanding and management of the hemodynamic, fluid, nutritional, and supportive care practices in sepsis have transformed the care of patients throughout the world. He also led the Society of Critical Care Medicine task force on corticosteroids in sepsis. He has already co-authored 10 papers on many therapeutic aspects of COVID-19.
 

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CPAC video with Dr. Byram Bridle (fast forward past MP Derek Sloan) explaining the attacks on him since recently discussing the risk with the new mRNA vaccines, he further explains where the science has lead him, and that his educational institution is behind him. Video is already censored by YouTube and Facebook.

 

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CPAC video with Dr. Byram Bridle (fast forward past MP Derek Sloan) explaining the attacks on him since recently discussing the risk with the new mRNA vaccines, he further explains where the science has lead him, and that his educational institution is behind him. Video is already censored by YouTube and Facebook.

Anytime Youtube or Facebook censors a video that isn't pornographic or grossly violent/inappropriate, I raise an eyebrow.

During this pandemic, there have been plenty of well educated individuals in various scientific and medical fields that have suggested trying already existing, well proven drugs for something other than their intended use. So while these drugs weren't proven in regards to Covid, the drugs themselves were readily available & in circulation. We didn't have any vaccines yet, so they were doing their best to come up with 'something' to help.

These individuals - for the most part - had good intentions. Some ideas suggested did pan out and help, others didn't do what they had hoped, and some were completely misunderstood.



I am totally fine with social media censoring/banning someone selling snake oil, looking to make a quick buck from the pandemic, in which people could very well die or suffer immensely because they fell for a scheme which seemed believable. Censor them and ban them, we don't need people who were scared to be so desperate for a sense of safety that they end up doing dangerous things to themselves believing it's for their safety.

I do get concerned when social media bans various people in the scientific and medical communities whose suggestions, ideas, or viewpoints are different than some others. Good science happens when people can talk to each other, compare notes, compare data, throw around ideas, disagree with each other, etc - and ultimately something good comes as a result.

If we don't allow well-intentioned, well educated folks to talk about their ideas, suggestions, possible solutions because their view doesn't vibe with the mainstream view, we are very much doing ourselves a disservice.


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Anytime Youtube or Facebook censors a video that isn't pornographic or grossly violent/inappropriate, I raise an eyebrow.

During this pandemic, there have been plenty of well educated individuals in various scientific and medical fields that have suggested trying already existing, well proven drugs for something other than their intended use. So while these drugs weren't proven in regards to Covid, the drugs themselves were readily available & in circulation. We didn't have any vaccines yet, so they were doing their best to come up with 'something' to help.

These individuals - for the most part - had good intentions. Some ideas suggested did pan out and help, others didn't do what they had hoped, and some were completely misunderstood.



I am totally fine with social media censoring/banning someone selling snake oil, looking to make a quick buck from the pandemic, in which people could very well die or suffer immensely because they fell for a scheme which seemed believable. Censor them and ban them, we don't need people who were scared to be so desperate for a sense of safety that they end up doing dangerous things to themselves believing it's for their safety.

I do get concerned when social media bans various people in the scientific and medical communities whose suggestions, ideas, or viewpoints are different than some others. Good science happens when people can talk to each other, compare notes, compare data, throw around ideas, disagree with each other, etc - and ultimately something good comes as a result.

If we don't allow well-intentioned, well educated folks to talk about their ideas, suggestions, possible solutions because their view doesn't vibe with the mainstream view, we are very much doing ourselves a disservice.


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I have an issue with foreign social media giants, such as FB, censoring anything not illegal. We are allowing a private org like FB to dictate what we see and hear. FB has it's own interests and they may not align with Canada's. Knowing what we know today of media and social media not being honest brokers, how can we allow this to carry on?

For example I personally believe Dr. Byram Bridle, a Canadian, is more likely to have my (or any Canadian citizen's) best interests in mind than Mark Zuckerberg. Bridle is established, qualified, and experienced in this field. There is nothing in his personal history, as far as I presently know, that would give me concern as to his motivations (for example he is not aligned with an extremist group or under the employ of a private enterprise seeking to profit that I am aware of). I get the impression he is genuine, very concerned, and considering todays environment very courageous for speaking out publicly about what he believes, scientifically. And he is not alone, he is supported by many experts in this field who are struggling to get the message out.

What concerns me here is that, in this war on COVID19, we are not pulling out all stops to win. We are narrowly focused on lockdowns and emergency use vaccines and the new vaccines are being pushed in a manner never before seen in our history. Our public health officials should be listening to people like Bridle, and maybe they are I don't know. All I see is censorship. I would like to see public panel discussions on all of this by the qualified folks, not censorship. We as citizens have a duty to look after each other. If the findings Bridle illustrates are accurate, we need to act now. If Bridle's findings are wrong, we equally need to know to be reassured we are on the right path.

Here is a more comprehensive compilation of Bridle's, and many others, scientific findings to date:

 

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Well this shoots my tin-foil hat conspiracy nut theory that the corona virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology all to hell.

Top virologist in China who works at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Shi Zhengli, said that speculation about her lab in Wuhan was baseless.


“How on earth can I offer up evidence for something where there is no evidence?” she said, her voice rising in anger during the brief, unscheduled conversation. “I don’t know how the world has come to this, constantly pouring filth on an innocent scientist,” she wrote in a text message.

I feel terrible.
 

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"where there is no evidence"

The clean-up was already done by the time that the world had its first inkling of what was to come.
 

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When COVID is over what else will we have to be outraged about....


mad gran torino GIF
 

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And so it begins...


No Springsteen for you: AstraZeneca not good enough to qualify for Broadway ticket​


View Royal mayor among those unable to attend New York entertainment due to COVID-19 restriction


David Screech had already selected his seats and put in his credit card information for “Springsteen on Broadway” tickets when he noticed the COVID-19 vaccine requirements: his two doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca wouldn’t be enough for admission.

Screech, the mayor of View Royal, B.C., and a Springsteen fan of 40 years, received his second AstraZeneca dose last week, but the Jujamcyn Theaters’ website said it would only allow guests “fully vaccinated with an FDA-approved vaccine” — Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna or Johnson & Johnson — to see the show.

The New York venue held firm when Screech contacted them directly to ask about the requirement, turning his anticipation into disappointment. While he’s “very grateful” to have two doses of an effective vaccine, Screech said he had some reservations about AstraZeneca, and the Broadway snub “certainly added to that.”

“Obviously our health is far more important than being able to go to shows or concerts. But the flip side of that is, shows and concerts have been a major part of my life,” Screech said.

“And the idea of not being able to go to them for the foreseeable future because of possibly getting the wrong vaccine is a little disappointing.”
“Springsteen on Broadway” isn’t the only New York City attraction holding guests to strict vaccination rules.

Live tapings of TV shows including “Saturday Night Live” and “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” also snub AstraZeneca doses in rules listed on their websites, which say they’re acting “at the direction of New York State.”

The New York Islanders, currently in an NHL playoff series against the Tampa Bay Lightning, don’t appear to have the same restrictions. While the team’s website says fans need proof of vaccination “per New York State guidelines,” the arena also has “non-vaccinated sections.”
The offices of New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, the New York State Department of Health and the Jujamcyn Theaters did not immediately return requests for comment.

Dr. Zain Chagla, an infectious disease physician in Hamilton, wasn’t surprised to see institutions begin enacting vaccine passports. But blocking AstraZeneca recipients from a Springsteen show seemed particularly cruel.

“If there’s something more painful you can do to Generation X, this is it,” Chagla said with a laugh.
Potential vaccine requirements for travellers could get even trickier if other countries begin forming rules based on their own authorized jabs, Chagla said.

A sense of vaccine nationalism could lead some to insist their authorized products are “the gold standard,” he added, noting that Johnson & Johnson, which was created with the same viral-vector technology as AstraZeneca, was slightly less effective in clinical trials.

 

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I have to wonder what they'll make of mixing vaccines. Not that I intend to travel anytime soon, or attend any concerts.
 

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And so it begins...


No Springsteen for you: AstraZeneca not good enough to qualify for Broadway ticket​


View Royal mayor among those unable to attend New York entertainment due to COVID-19 restriction


David Screech had already selected his seats and put in his credit card information for “Springsteen on Broadway” tickets when he noticed the COVID-19 vaccine requirements: his two doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca wouldn’t be enough for admission.

Screech, the mayor of View Royal, B.C., and a Springsteen fan of 40 years, received his second AstraZeneca dose last week, but the Jujamcyn Theaters’ website said it would only allow guests “fully vaccinated with an FDA-approved vaccine” — Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna or Johnson & Johnson — to see the show.

The New York venue held firm when Screech contacted them directly to ask about the requirement, turning his anticipation into disappointment. While he’s “very grateful” to have two doses of an effective vaccine, Screech said he had some reservations about AstraZeneca, and the Broadway snub “certainly added to that.”

“Obviously our health is far more important than being able to go to shows or concerts. But the flip side of that is, shows and concerts have been a major part of my life,” Screech said.

“And the idea of not being able to go to them for the foreseeable future because of possibly getting the wrong vaccine is a little disappointing.”
“Springsteen on Broadway” isn’t the only New York City attraction holding guests to strict vaccination rules.

Live tapings of TV shows including “Saturday Night Live” and “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” also snub AstraZeneca doses in rules listed on their websites, which say they’re acting “at the direction of New York State.”

The New York Islanders, currently in an NHL playoff series against the Tampa Bay Lightning, don’t appear to have the same restrictions. While the team’s website says fans need proof of vaccination “per New York State guidelines,” the arena also has “non-vaccinated sections.”
The offices of New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, the New York State Department of Health and the Jujamcyn Theaters did not immediately return requests for comment.

Dr. Zain Chagla, an infectious disease physician in Hamilton, wasn’t surprised to see institutions begin enacting vaccine passports. But blocking AstraZeneca recipients from a Springsteen show seemed particularly cruel.

“If there’s something more painful you can do to Generation X, this is it,” Chagla said with a laugh.
Potential vaccine requirements for travellers could get even trickier if other countries begin forming rules based on their own authorized jabs, Chagla said.

A sense of vaccine nationalism could lead some to insist their authorized products are “the gold standard,” he added, noting that Johnson & Johnson, which was created with the same viral-vector technology as AstraZeneca, was slightly less effective in clinical trials.

This is purely political.

Not “Made in ‘Murica”…or “PMJ2, f*ck, yeah!”

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* PMJ2 - Pfizer-Moderna-Johnson&Johnson
 
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