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Brits beg ASW help

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So, this is what happens when governments think an island nation no longers needs MPAs.

Grrrrrrr!!!!!  :mad:

From Aviation Week.


The U.K. called in assistance to help hunt for a foreign submarine off the west coast of Scotland starting in late November.

Maritime patrol aircraft (MPAs) from France, Canada and the U.S. conducted patrols in conjunction with British surface warships in the search for the submarine in late November and the first week of December, operating out of RAF Lossiemouth in northern Scotland.

The incident began when a periscope was sighted in waters where U.K. and other submarines would normally surface as they head into or out of the Royal Navy’s submarine base at Faslane, home of the U.K.’s ballistic missile submarines.

At the height of the operation, aircraft involved in the hunt included two U.S. Navy P-3 Orions, a single CP-140 Aurora from the Royal Canadian Air Force and a Dassault Atlantique 2 of the French navy. Also involved was one of the U.K.’s Raytheon Sentinel radar-reconnaissance aircraft.

The U.K. defense ministry and the participating air arms have not confirmed they were hunting for a submarine. But a U.K. defense ministry spokesman told Aviation Week that Britain had “requested assistance from allied forces for basing of maritime patrol aircraft at RAF Lossiemouth for a limited period.

The aircraft are conducting Maritime Patrol activity with the Royal Navy; we do not discuss the detail of maritime operations.”


Read the whole article here  -  http://aviationweek.com/defense/canadians-french-us-hunt-submarine-scotland
 
Isn't this the second or third such incident along that coastal area of Europe?  More then a little alarming to think someone is so brazenly poking around like that.
 
OTR!, not sure what the 'grrrr' drama is all about.  ::)

Anyone who thought the entire sub-surface threat disappeared "because the Cold War is over" are the ones who are/might be upset by stuff like this.  The decision to remove the Nimrod was a political one. 

We have a Navy and no oilers.  If we want to look at the UK, we better make sure our backyard is tidy first and I assure you, it's not.  We have our own issues, just like every nation's military. 

Must be a slow news day... :2c:
 
That's just Life In The Faslane  :D .  C'mon, I can't have been the only one thinking it.
 
Kat Stevens said:
That's just Life In The Faslane  :D .  C'mon, I can't have been the only one thinking it.

Nope !

In fact, it's an old one: It has been around in the submarine service ever since the Brits based their boomers there.

You just never heard it because it's the Silent Service. Shhhhh!
 
Luckily there is a solution, well that is if the UK government is willing to admit they effed up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_P-8_Poseidon

 
Eye in the Sky, the Grrrrr! was squarely aimed at UK politicians.

The 2010 defence review was a a litany of anti-strategic thinking. Cogent arguments for and against long range/exped capability can always be made, but ditching the Nimrods was pure insanity. That capability is etched into the geo-poli realities of physical sovereignty.

What idiots.  :mad:

 
Thankfully there is proven solution out there and will provide UK based jobs

https://www.facebook.com/ShackletonReturnToFlight
 
OTR1 said:
Eye in the Sky, the Grrrrr! was squarely aimed at UK politicians.

The 2010 defence review was a a litany of anti-strategic thinking. Cogent arguments for and against long range/exped capability can always be made, but ditching the Nimrods was pure insanity. That capability is etched into the geo-poli realities of physical sovereignty.

What idiots.  :mad:

MPA is just one of the tools in the ASW game...their entire capability wasn't scraped.
 
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