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Posted by "Randy Johnston" <randicus@home.com> on Sat, 6 Jan 2001 22:32:34 -0800
Hi Ya‘ll, I am going to throw out a question that is principally of interest
to the reservists out there, however all input is appreciated.
Does any one parade for one full Saturday or Sunday every 2 week as opposed
to a half day every Tuesday or Thursday evening?
We presently do the later, but I think the merits of the bi-monthly full day
seems obvious
a.. More time to plan and perform training.
b.. Less conflict with peoples lives twice a month as opposed to 4 times
per month
c.. Greater likelihood of getting troops out for 2 big days rather than 4
small evenings.
A significant problem is that most of the senior personnel i.e. Sgt and
above spend a good part of the evenings in meetings. As for the rest, by the
time you get set up to do a class or training session, it‘s time to take it
down and send everyone home.
It seems that you could put on some significant training with a full day to
do it as opposed to a few hours.
What do you think...
Randy Johnston
BCR DCO
Hi Ya‘ll,
I am going to throw out a question that is principally of interest to
the
reservists out there, however all input is
appreciated.
Does any
one parade for one full Saturday or Sunday every 2 week as opposed to a
half day
every Tuesday or Thursday evening?
We
presently do the later, but I think the merits of the bi-monthly full
day seems
obvious
More time to plan and perform training.
Less conflict with peoples lives twice a month as
opposedto
4 times per month
Greater
likelihood of getting troops out for 2 big days rather than 4 small
evenings.
A
significant problem is that most of the senior personnel i.e. Sgt and
above
spend a good part of the evenings in meetings. As for the rest, by the
time you
get set up to do a class or training session, it‘s time to take it down
and send
everyone home.
It seems
that you could put on some significant training with a full day to do it
as
opposed to a few hours.
What do
you think...
Randy
Johnston
BCR
DCO
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Posted by "Gow" <jgow@home.com> on Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:54:06 -0500
Am really wondering, Randy...
If there is no training..and training does not happen in an Armory
classroom...your man-days are going down the toilet...
Half days are admin nights, to be kept to a minimum staff, to preserve
your training WEEKENDS...or so to my belief...or maybe this is just the
way some "old" SOB was raised..
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Johnston
To: Canadian Army Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 1:32 AM
Subject: Changing Times
Hi Ya‘ll, I am going to throw out a question that is principally of
interest to the reservists out there, however all input is appreciated.
Does any one parade for one full Saturday or Sunday every 2 week as
opposed to a half day every Tuesday or Thursday evening?
We presently do the later, but I think the merits of the bi-monthly
full day seems obvious
a.. More time to plan and perform training.
b.. Less conflict with peoples lives twice a month as opposed to 4
times per month
c.. Greater likelihood of getting troops out for 2 big days rather
than 4 small evenings.
A significant problem is that most of the senior personnel i.e. Sgt
and above spend a good part of the evenings in meetings. As for the
rest, by the time you get set up to do a class or training session, it‘s
time to take it down and send everyone home.
It seems that you could put on some significant training with a full
day to do it as opposed to a few hours.
What do you think...
Randy Johnston
BCR DCO
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Am really wondering,
Randy...
If there is no training..and training
does not
happen in an Armory classroom...your man-days are going down the
toilet...
Half days are admin nights, to be kept
to a minimum
staff, to preserve your training WEEKENDS...or so to my belief...or
maybe this
is just the way some "old" SOB was raised..
John
----- Original Message -----
From:
Randy
Johnston

To: Canadian Army Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001
1:32
AM
Subject: Changing Times

Hi
Ya‘ll, I am going to throw out a question that is principally of
interest to
the reservists out there, however all input is
appreciated.

Does any
one parade for one full Saturday or Sunday every 2 week as opposed to
a half
day every Tuesday or Thursday evening?

We
presently do the later, but I think the merits of the bi-monthly full
day
seems obvious

More time to plan and perform training.
Less conflict with peoples lives twice a month as
opposedto 4 times per month
Greater
likelihood of getting troops out for 2 big days rather than 4 small
evenings.
A
significant problem is that most of the senior personnel i.e. Sgt and
above
spend a good part of the evenings in meetings. As for the rest, by the
time
you get set up to do a class or training session, it‘s time to take it
down
and send everyone home.

It seems
that you could put on some significant training with a full day to do
it as
opposed to a few hours.

What do
you think...

Randy
Johnston
BCR
DCO
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Posted by "Randy Johnston" <randicus@home.com> on Sat, 6 Jan 2001 23:30:25 -0800
John, The only "weekend" training we ever seem to get is when we go to Ft
Lewis for an MTSC eval. Taking a weekend day for new training would be
great but it doesn‘t seem to happen.
Some reasons for this may be
a.. there isn‘t enough money to pay the man days for weekend training
b.. It would be a new way of thinking about training that we haven‘t
adopted yet
c.. the will may not be in place to try this, there is often a strong
contention that "this is the way we have always done things"
I am not about the criticize, especially not on these means, the question
was posed to elicited thought and ideas not make inferences.
Randy
-Snip-
Half days are admin nights, to be kept to a minimum staff, to preserve
your training WEEKENDS...or so to my belief...or maybe this is just the way
some "old" SOB was raised..
John
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John, The only "weekend" training we ever
seem to get
is when we go to Ft Lewis for an MTSC eval. Taking a weekend day
for new
training would be great but it doesn‘t seem to
happen.
Some reasons for this may
be
there isn‘t enough money to pay the man
days for
weekend training
It would be a new way of thinking about
training that
we haven‘t adopted yet
the will may not be in place to try this,
there is
often a strong contention that "this is the way we have always done
things"
I am not about the criticize, especially not
on these
means, the question was posed to elicited thought and ideas not make
inferences.
Randy
-Snip-
Half days are admin nights, to be
kept to a
minimum staff, to preserve your training WEEKENDS...or so to my
belief...or
maybe this is just the way some "old" SOB was raised..

John
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Posted by "Gow" <jgow@home.com> on Sun, 7 Jan 2001 02:41:51 -0500
Well...
One of the difficulties of being PRes is the idea that you‘d have to
work 24/7...and there‘s the place that PRes types need to
concentrate...in my opinion, of course. Most do quite well, gven the
opportunity. So why don‘t the units "create" the opportunity?....?Don‘t
want to go there, thanks...
The answer would be that Safeway pays more to pack groceries than a
reservist can make for a full day‘s pay..
Its no criticism of any given officer or NCO that if you get paid ten
bucks an hour just for an instance...for being on the parade square,
you‘ll be more motivated than one that‘s making five bucks..for doing
whatever the Sgt says...let alone the perception of oneself...loyalty
etc etc retention..recruiting...
In the field, in my opinion, your guys come out a bit more, and ‘buddy‘
systems are fostered...and retention is enhanced...but you have to PAY
THE MEN ...
Because we now non-serving typeswill pay them good money to work in
civvy jobs, at premium pay, and we will steal every single one of them
that is of any use, and you can go figure why...
The number crunchers at the top of the system have not yet caught on to
"real life"...ie can you make a go of it given what you offer,...
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Johnston
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 2:30 AM
Subject: RE: Changing Times
John, The only "weekend" training we ever seem to get is when we go to
Ft Lewis for an MTSC eval. Taking a weekend day for new training would
be great but it doesn‘t seem to happen.
Some reasons for this may be
a.. there isn‘t enough money to pay the man days for weekend
training
b.. It would be a new way of thinking about training that we haven‘t
adopted yet
c.. the will may not be in place to try this, there is often a
strong contention that "this is the way we have always done things"
I am not about the criticize, especially not on these means, the
question was posed to elicited thought and ideas not make inferences.
Randy
-Snip-
Half days are admin nights, to be kept to a minimum staff, to
preserve your training WEEKENDS...or so to my belief...or maybe this is
just the way some "old" SOB was raised..
John
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Well...
One of the difficulties of being PRes
is the idea
that you‘d have to work 24/7...and there‘s the place that PRes types
need to
concentrate...in my opinion, of course. Most do quite well, gven
the
opportunity. So why don‘t the units "create" the
opportunity?....?Don‘t
want to go there, thanks...
The answer would be that Safeway pays
more to pack
groceries than a reservist can make for a full day‘s pay..
Its no criticism of any given officer
or NCO that
if you get paid ten bucks an hour just for an instance...for
being on
the parade square, you‘ll be more motivated than one that‘s making five
bucks..for doing whatever the Sgt says...let alone the perception of
oneself...loyalty etc etc retention..recruiting...
In the field, in my opinion, your guys
come out a
bit more, and ‘buddy‘ systems are fostered...and retention is
enhanced...but you
have to PAY THE MEN ...
Because we now non-serving typeswill
pay them
good money to work in civvy jobs, at premium pay, and we will steal
every single
one of them that is of any use, and you can go figure
why...
The number crunchers at the top of the
system have
not yet caught on to "real life"...ie can you make a go of it given what
you
offer,...
John
----- Original Message -----
From:
Randy
Johnston

To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001
2:30
AM
Subject: RE: Changing
Times

John, The only "weekend" training we ever
seem to get
is when we go to Ft Lewis for an MTSC eval. Taking a weekend day
for new
training would be great but it doesn‘t seem to
happen.

Some reasons for this may
be

there isn‘t enough money to pay the man
days for
weekend training
It would be a new way of thinking about
training
that we haven‘t adopted yet
the will may not be in place to try this,
there is
often a strong contention that "this is the way we have always done
things"
I am not about the criticize, especially
not on these
means, the question was posed to elicited thought and ideas not make
inferences.

Randy

-Snip-
Half days are admin nights, to be
kept to a
minimum staff, to preserve your training WEEKENDS...or so to my
belief...or
maybe this is just the way some "old" SOB was raised..

John
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Posted by Rhett Lawson <lawson@cclacbrome.qc.ca> on Sun, 07 Jan 2001 09:16:52 -0500
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Hello Randy
In the Montreal Region most units do Admin on Tues evening, Training
every Saturday all day Saturday and then every 4 to 5 week do a complete
weekend in the field, ie: Friday evening to Sunday afternoon late. This
type of training schedule maximizes the effeciency and impact of
training and also means that more soldiers can actually attend to
furthering their own experiences with a large degree of professionalism.
Rhett Lawson
Randy Johnston wrote:
> John, The only "weekend" training we ever seem to get is when we go to
> Ft Lewis for an MTSC eval. Taking a weekend day for new training
> would be great but it doesn‘t seem to happen.Some reasons for this may
> be
>
> * there isn‘t enough money to pay the man days for weekend training
> * It would be a new way of thinking about training that we haven‘t
> adopted yet
> * the will may not be in place to try this, there is often a strong
> contention that "this is the way we have always done things"
>
> I am not about the criticize, especially not on these means, the
> question was posed to elicited thought and ideas not make
> inferences.Randy
>
> -Snip-Half days are admin nights, to be kept to a minimum
> staff, to preserve your training WEEKENDS...or so to my
> belief...or maybe this is just the way some "old" SOB was
> raised.. John
>
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Hello Randy
In the Montreal Region most units do Admin on Tues evening, Training
every Saturday all day Saturday and then every 4 to 5 week do a complete
weekend in the field, ie: Friday evening to Sunday afternoon late.
This type of training schedule maximizes the effeciency and impact of training
and also means that more soldiers can actually attend to furthering their
own experiences with a large degree of professionalism.
Rhett Lawson
Randy Johnston wrote:
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John,
The only "weekend" training we ever seem to get is when we go to Ft Lewis
for an MTSC eval. Taking a weekend day for new training would be
great but it doesn‘t seem to happen.Some
reasons for this may be
there
isn‘t enough money to pay the man days for weekend training
It
would be a new way of thinking about training that we haven‘t adopted yet
the
will may not be in place to try this, there is often a strong contention
that "this is the way we have always done things"
I
am not about the criticize, especially not on these means, the question
was posed to elicited thought and ideas not make inferences.Randy
-Snip-Half
days are admin nights, to be kept to a minimum staff, to preserve your
training WEEKENDS...or so to my belief...or maybe this is just the way
some "old" SOB was raised..John
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Posted by "The MacFarlanes‘" <desrtrat@amug.org> on Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:24:09 -0700
I agree very much.
MacF
----- Original Message -----
From: Gow
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: Changing Times
Well...

One of the difficulties of being PRes is the idea that you‘d have to
work 24/7...and there‘s the place that PRes types need to
concentrate...in my opinion, of course. Most do quite well, gven the
opportunity. So why don‘t the units "create" the opportunity?....?Don‘t
want to go there, thanks...

The answer would be that Safeway pays more to pack groceries than a
reservist can make for a full day‘s pay..

Its no criticism of any given officer or NCO that if you get paid
ten bucks an hour just for an instance...for being on the parade
square, you‘ll be more motivated than one that‘s making five bucks..for
doing whatever the Sgt says...let alone the perception of
oneself...loyalty etc etc retention..recruiting...

In the field, in my opinion, your guys come out a bit more, and
‘buddy‘ systems are fostered...and retention is enhanced...but you have
to PAY THE MEN ...

Because we now non-serving typeswill pay them good money to work in
civvy jobs, at premium pay, and we will steal every single one of them
that is of any use, and you can go figure why...

The number crunchers at the top of the system have not yet caught on
to "real life"...ie can you make a go of it given what you offer,...

John
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Johnston
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 2:30 AM
Subject: RE: Changing Times
John, The only "weekend" training we ever seem to get is when we go
to Ft Lewis for an MTSC eval. Taking a weekend day for new training
would be great but it doesn‘t seem to happen.

Some reasons for this may be
a.. there isn‘t enough money to pay the man days for weekend
training
b.. It would be a new way of thinking about training that we
haven‘t adopted yet
c.. the will may not be in place to try this, there is often a
strong contention that "this is the way we have always done things"
I am not about the criticize, especially not on these means, the
question was posed to elicited thought and ideas not make inferences.

Randy
-Snip-
Half days are admin nights, to be kept to a minimum staff, to
preserve your training WEEKENDS...or so to my belief...or maybe this is
just the way some "old" SOB was raised..

John
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I agree very much.
MacF
----- Original Message -----
From:
Gow
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001
12:41
AM
Subject: Re: Changing
Times

Well...

One of the difficulties of being PRes
is the idea
that you‘d have to work 24/7...and there‘s the place that PRes types
need to
concentrate...in my opinion, of course. Most do quite well, gven
the
opportunity. So why don‘t the units "create" the
opportunity?....?Don‘t
want to go there, thanks...

The answer would be that Safeway pays
more to
pack groceries than a reservist can make for a full day‘s
pay..

Its no criticism of any given officer
or NCO
that if you get paid ten bucks an hour just for an
instance...for
being on the parade square, you‘ll be more motivated than one that‘s
making
five bucks..for doing whatever the Sgt says...let alone the perception
of
oneself...loyalty etc etc retention..recruiting...

In the field, in my opinion, your
guys come out a
bit more, and ‘buddy‘ systems are fostered...and retention is
enhanced...but
you have to PAY THE MEN ...

Because we now non-serving
typeswill pay them
good money to work in civvy jobs, at premium pay, and we will steal
every
single one of them that is of any use, and you can go figure
why...

The number crunchers at the top of
the system
have not yet caught on to "real life"...ie can you make a go of it
given what
you offer,...

John

----- Original Message -----
From:
Randy
Johnston
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 07,
2001 2:30
AM
Subject: RE: Changing
Times

John, The only "weekend" training we ever
seem to
get is when we go to Ft Lewis for an MTSC eval. Taking a
weekend day
for new training would be great but it doesn‘t seem to
happen.

Some reasons for this may
be

there isn‘t enough money to pay the man
days for
weekend training
It would be a new way of thinking about
training
that we haven‘t adopted yet
the will may not be in place to try
this, there
is often a strong contention that "this is the way we have always
done
things"
I am not about the criticize, especially
not on
these means, the question was posed to elicited thought and ideas
not make
inferences.

Randy

-Snip-
Half days are admin nights, to be
kept to a
minimum staff, to preserve your training WEEKENDS...or so to my
belief...or maybe this is just the way some "old" SOB was
raised..

John
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Posted by "Donald Schepens" <a.schepens@home.com> on Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:54:38 -0700
We 15 Svc Bn parade 2 Sat, then one weekend Ex, then one weekend off
generally the long weekend in the month. Admin only although there
sometimes is training on Wed Evenings.
Don Schepens
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Johnston
To: Canadian Army Mailing List
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 11:32 PM
Subject: Changing Times
Hi Ya‘ll, I am going to throw out a question that is principally of
interest to the reservists out there, however all input is appreciated.

Does any one parade for one full Saturday or Sunday every 2 week as
opposed to a half day every Tuesday or Thursday evening?

We presently do the later, but I think the merits of the bi-monthly
full day seems obvious
a.. More time to plan and perform training.
b.. Less conflict with peoples lives twice a month as opposed to 4
times per month
c.. Greater likelihood of getting troops out for 2 big days rather
than 4 small evenings.
A significant problem is that most of the senior personnel i.e. Sgt
and above spend a good part of the evenings in meetings. As for the
rest, by the time you get set up to do a class or training session, it‘s
time to take it down and send everyone home.

It seems that you could put on some significant training with a full
day to do it as opposed to a few hours.

What do you think...

Randy Johnston
BCR DCO
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We 15 Svc Bn parade 2 Sat, then one
weekend Ex,
then one weekend off generally the long weekend in the month.
Admin only
although there sometimes is training on Wed Evenings.
Don Schepens
----- Original Message -----
From:
Randy
Johnston

To: Canadian Army Mailing List
Sent: Saturday, January 06,
2001 11:32
PM
Subject: Changing Times

Hi
Ya‘ll, I am going to throw out a question that is principally of
interest to
the reservists out there, however all input is
appreciated.

Does any
one parade for one full Saturday or Sunday every 2 week as opposed to
a half
day every Tuesday or Thursday evening?

We
presently do the later, but I think the merits of the bi-monthly full
day
seems obvious

More time to plan and perform training.
Less conflict with peoples lives twice a month as
opposedto 4 times per month
Greater
likelihood of getting troops out for 2 big days rather than 4 small
evenings.
A
significant problem is that most of the senior personnel i.e. Sgt and
above
spend a good part of the evenings in meetings. As for the rest, by the
time
you get set up to do a class or training session, it‘s time to take it
down
and send everyone home.

It seems
that you could put on some significant training with a full day to do
it as
opposed to a few hours.

What do
you think...

Randy
Johnston
BCR
DCO
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Posted by "Bradley Sallows" <Bradley_Sallows@ismbc.com> on Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:57:25 -0800
>Does any one parade for one full Saturday or Sunday every 2 week as opposed to
a half day every Tuesday or Thursday evening?
Here in BC, 744 Comm parades primarily on weekends. I believe all the army
units parade week nights.
My unit briefly tried moving from Thursday evenings to full Saturdays a few
years back. There were essentially 3 problems:
1/ Older soldiers, and even many of the newer ones, had planned their lives
around Thursday parades and less frequent weekend activities. The change
disrupted schedules. Active people skiers, hikers, boaters, etc found it
easier to give up an evening than a full day.
2/ People on shifts missed a greater percentage of training time missing a full
day took more out than missing a half day.
3/ It was discovered that one advantage of a weekly evening parade is to simply
maintain contact with the soldiers. There was a tendency with less frequent
parading intervals for some to lose focus and drift into non-effective status.
I agree with the training advantages of the full day. The real problem is the
adjustment from one culture weekly half-day to another less frequent full
Saturdays. Nevertheless, we still manage to schedule 2-3 full periods of
instruction on Thursday evenings occasionally one period will be set aside for
CO‘s parade, admin, etc.
Funding may not be an issue. My estimate of the funding units are receiving
right now is that there is enough to cover weekly evening parades, one Saturday,
and one full weekend per month from September through May. I believe my unit
would have difficulty motivating people to give up more than one full weekend
plus one full Saturday each month. This is simply a realization of the fact
that most of our soldiers have jobs or full-time school, plus other interests in
life.
Brad Sallows
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Posted by Derrick Forsythe <Derrick.Forsythe@gov.ab.ca> on Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:30:07 -0700
There was a school of thought circulating a few years back that did say it
was more cost-effective to train on weekends as opposed to week nights for
many of the reasons outlined earlier.
I happen to agree - limiting admin to wed nights allows the lunts to spend
more quality time "on the floor" during saturday training. Historically, we
have paraded on Wed nights only when we were gearing up for the MTSC cycle
or we were doing Ex prep ore post-ex maint.
there is certain admin required on an ongoing basis - that is why RHQ‘s and
not Btys, Coys, Sqns should be responsible for coord of things like MLOC
training, range shoots and so on. It‘s more work for the HQ staff, but it
allows for greater focus at the sub-unit level.
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Posted by Glenn Knudson <gknudson@mb.sympatico.ca> on Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:59:07 -0600
Here in Winnipeg most units parade one evening tuesday night and every other
weekend saturday and sunday. This seems to work. With most tuesday nights
being admin or pre/post - ex prep.
Glenn Knudson
Derrick Forsythe wrote:
> There was a school of thought circulating a few years back that did say it
> was more cost-effective to train on weekends as opposed to week nights for
> many of the reasons outlined earlier.
>
> I happen to agree - limiting admin to wed nights allows the lunts to spend
> more quality time "on the floor" during saturday training. Historically, we
> have paraded on Wed nights only when we were gearing up for the MTSC cycle
> or we were doing Ex prep ore post-ex maint.
>
> there is certain admin required on an ongoing basis - that is why RHQ‘s and
> not Btys, Coys, Sqns should be responsible for coord of things like MLOC
> training, range shoots and so on. It‘s more work for the HQ staff, but it
> allows for greater focus at the sub-unit level.
>
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Posted by "Peter deVries" <rsm_kes_cc254@hotmail.com> on Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:38:36
Here in Nova Scotia the infantry units to the best of my knowledge, train
once a night weekly and then as many weekends as possible, which doesn‘t add
up to too many. I‘m not sure about other trades.
Peter de Vries
>From: Glenn Knudson
>Reply-To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
>To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
>Subject: Re: Changing Times
>Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:59:07 -0600
>
>Here in Winnipeg most units parade one evening tuesday night and every
>other
>weekend saturday and sunday. This seems to work. With most tuesday nights
>being admin or pre/post - ex prep.
>
>Glenn Knudson
>
>Derrick Forsythe wrote:
>
> > There was a school of thought circulating a few years back that did say
>it
> > was more cost-effective to train on weekends as opposed to week nights
>for
> > many of the reasons outlined earlier.
> >
> > I happen to agree - limiting admin to wed nights allows the lunts to
>spend
> > more quality time "on the floor" during saturday training.
>Historically, we
> > have paraded on Wed nights only when we were gearing up for the MTSC
>cycle
> > or we were doing Ex prep ore post-ex maint.
> >
> > there is certain admin required on an ongoing basis - that is why RHQ‘s
>and
> > not Btys, Coys, Sqns should be responsible for coord of things like MLOC
> > training, range shoots and so on. It‘s more work for the HQ staff, but
>it
> > allows for greater focus at the sub-unit level.
> >
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Posted by "The MacFarlanes‘" <desrtrat@amug.org> on Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:14:17 -0700
We trained 2 nights per week, and an average of one weekend per month.
Granted there were months we had no weekends, and others we had 2 or 3, but
it worked out to around 1 a month. Monday nights were Admin, and only
required Snr NCOs and Officers, and others trained, unless there was a
course running, which happened on occasion. It seemed to work OK. We used to
run a dvrs course, in the lull between summer ex and fall start up. We also
used to squeeze a lot of GMT, and QL1 courses in at Christmas break, March
break, or over a series of Monday and Thursday nights. The more centralized
training systems changed all of that. And I know that GMT and QL are old
designations.
MacFarlane
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