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No national security grounds, in allowing a Chinese company to own and operate a major port?

In a country that has to import nearly everything it needs… pretty sure the country that is constantly making open threats, undertaking adversarial political moves, overtly undermining their democracy, etc - should not be owning or in charge of a major port.


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Not to mention that Darwin is where USMC (and potentially other US assets) are located on a rotating basis, and that Australian Army (1st Bde at Robertson barracks) and RAN units (patrol boats at HMAS Coonawarra) are also based there.
 

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Based on the public discussions of what the US is planning in capabililties this is one picture of what China might be facing.

First Line - First Island Chain

30 times JLTV/NSM - Rogue Fires - NMESIS Platoons of the USMC - 185 km reach moved around 6000 km of Island Frontage by 30 Light Amphibious Warships. Line extends from Singapore and Malaysia, through Brunei, Vietnam and the Philippines, to Taiwan and then to Busan in S Korea.
Backed by HIMARS Trucks launching 500 km PrSM missiles

Organized into three Littoral Combat Regiments each with its own Service Support Battalion and Air Defence Battalion.

Backed by a 40 knot fleet of 14 monohull LCS, 17 trimaran LCS and 15 catamaran EPFs for log support. The 31 LCS hulls also all mount the same 185km NSMs employed by the USMC Rogue Fires Platoons. In addition the hulls have the ability to move a lot of marines and their trucks, LAVs and UAVs.

2nd Line - 2nd Island Chain

Anchored on Guam with flanks secured forward at Darwin in Northern Australia and Adak in the Aleutians. Protected by Medium Range Capabilities of the SM6 and the GLCM missiles as well as, prospectively, the LR Hyper Sonic weapons. Secure allies in Australia in the south and Japan in the North.

3rd Line - Hawaii

Pearl Harbor
USN / USMC

4th Line - Conus and Alaska
USAF and US Army

From China's viewpoint that could be seen as a containment strategy.
 

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Based on the public discussions of what the US is planning in capabililties this is one picture of what China might be facing.

First Line - First Island Chain

30 times JLTV/NSM - Rogue Fires - NMESIS Platoons of the USMC - 185 km reach moved around 6000 km of Island Frontage by 30 Light Amphibious Warships. Line extends from Singapore and Malaysia, through Brunei, Vietnam and the Philippines, to Taiwan and then to Busan in S Korea.
Backed by HIMARS Trucks launching 500 km PrSM missiles

Organized into three Littoral Combat Regiments each with its own Service Support Battalion and Air Defence Battalion.

Backed by a 40 knot fleet of 14 monohull LCS, 17 trimaran LCS and 15 catamaran EPFs for log support. The 31 LCS hulls also all mount the same 185km NSMs employed by the USMC Rogue Fires Platoons. In addition the hulls have the ability to move a lot of marines and their trucks, LAVs and UAVs.

2nd Line - 2nd Island Chain

Anchored on Guam with flanks secured forward at Darwin in Northern Australia and Adak in the Aleutians. Protected by Medium Range Capabilities of the SM6 and the GLCM missiles as well as, prospectively, the LR Hyper Sonic weapons. Secure allies in Australia in the south and Japan in the North.

3rd Line - Hawaii

Pearl Harbor
USN / USMC

4th Line - Conus and Alaska
USAF and US Army

From China's viewpoint that could be seen as a containment strategy.


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The monohull LCS, the problematic ones from the Great Lakes, are being deployed out of Florida to the Caribbean. Only the Austal Catamaran fleet of Independence Class LCS (recently armed with the same NSM used by the USMC Littoral Regiments) and the Spearhead Class Joint High Speed Vessels (EPFs) are being deployed to the Indo-Pacific region. Austal is also a lead contender for the Light Amphibious Warship.


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Just noting the open deck concept for the LAW landing ship.

That suggests this:

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Meaning that those 30 Light Amphibious Warships, with ROGUE and HIMARS vehicles on board might also be considered as Bombards capable of contributing to the fight with their on board cargo. The missiles could be launched at sea, or the launchers could be disembarked and launched from the shore.
 

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China’s ambassador to the US has said the two countries could face a “military conflict” over the future of Taiwan, in an unusually explicit reference to the prospect of war.

“The Taiwan issue is the biggest tinderbox between China and the United States,” Qin Gang told the US public broadcaster National Public Radio (NPR), on Friday. “If the Taiwanese authorities, emboldened by the United States, keep going down the road for independence, it most likely will involve China and the United States, the two big countries, in the military conflict.”
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Act 2 begins...
 

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I just saw someone mention a container from China is costing them $20,000 at the moment , when it used to be $4500 and the tranist time is an extra month.
 

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Berger said several times during the interview “no other operation is more complicated” than an amphibious invasion. He added there are problems of logistics and sustainment that need to be addressed once ashore, although having the ability to enter from the sea and air gives the invader mobility to overcome defenses.

The “sheer difficulty” of forcible entry “highlight why we [Navy and Marine Corps] have to train.

 

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A top U.S. commander says China has fully militarized at least three of several islands it built in the disputed South China Sea. U.S. Indo-Pacific commander Adm. John C. Aquilino says the increasingly aggressive moves threaten all nations operating nearby.

“I think over the past 20 years we’ve witnessed the largest military buildup since World War II by the PRC,” Aquilino told the AP, using the initials of China’s formal name. “That buildup of weaponization is destabilizing to the region.”

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A U.N.-backed arbitration tribunal that handled the case invalidated China’s sweeping historical claims in the South China Sea under the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea. Beijing dismissed the ruling as sham and continues to defy it.

 

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