Federal Transport Minister Freeland slams B.C. Ferries deal with Chinese company
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Feds should fund BC Ferries equal to Atlantic coast: B.C. premier
B.C. Premier David Eby is calling on the feds to look deeper into different ferry funding across the country.
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Feds should fund BC Ferries equal to Atlantic coast: B.C. premier
B.C. Premier David Eby is calling on the feds to look deeper into different ferry funding across the country.
Nice try at laying a smoke screen...
BC Ferries is not independent of this NDP government at all, so claiming they didn't know anything about the China build is a porkie pie ...
Les Leyne: B.C. Ferries' independence is a charade
Maybe it’s time to accept reality and fold B.C. Ferries back into government as a Crown corporationB.C. Ferries operated under a contract where the government supplied a nine-figure sum to subsidize the fleet, then the politicians backed off and had nothing more to do with it. (The subsidy was originally $106 million a year and has risen to $194 million.)
But when corporate decisions became too unpopular, Liberal cabinet ministers started meddling several years in. After the NDP took over in 2017, the independence eroded further. Under the contract, they couldn’t order the changes they wanted, so they bought them instead.
The $100 million was produced in 2019 to restore free mid-week seniors’ travel, roll back fares 15 per cent on smaller routes and freeze fares on the major routes for a time.
More recently, a bill to sideline the board of directors and give the NDP appointees on the ferry authority superboard more power was introduced.
That was abandoned and, instead, former NDP cabinet minister Joy MacPhail was named chair of the B.C. Ferries board. She later MCed David Eby’s swearing-in ceremony, which signals she’ll be around for at least as long as he is.
She ousted Mark Collins as CEO last summer and installed former ICBC head Nicolas Jiminez last month.
The pandemic changes and chronic crew shortages eliminate any chance of cost-cutting. B.C. Ferries needs more of everything. The bailout pattern weakens the resolve to cut costs even if they could.
B.C. Ferries is entirely in the hands of the NDP government now, at a time when restoring dependability is more important than arguing about control. They might as well make it official.
Les Leyne: B.C. Ferries' independence is a charade
Maybe it’s time to accept reality and fold B.C. Ferries back into government as a Crown corporation
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The NDP in BC couldn't run a successful gun auction at a prison break.
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Feds should fund BC Ferries equal to Atlantic coast: B.C. premier
B.C. Premier David Eby is calling on the feds to look deeper into different ferry funding across the country.
Too easy.
Newfoundland and PEI got ferries.
BC got a railway.
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One thing Eby is good at (besides lying) is whining.
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It is interesting that he deliberately misunderstood the terms of Confederation.
Now, I suppose he could (and would be on stronger legal and historical grounds) start asking pointed questions to the Feds about that railway on Vancouver Island that BC was promised under the terms of Confederation that hasn’t run for 30 decades…
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BC Ferries... making China great again
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Rob Shaw: Poilievre slams BC Ferries deal as taxpayer-funded ‘slave labour’ in China
Conservative leader urges Ottawa to cancel $1B loan and help redirect ferry construction to Canada or democratic allies
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Last time I checked which granted hasn't been in a while there was a passenger train running on the Island .
It been more than a couple of years now that I think about it.
It been more than a couple of years now that I think about it.
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Nope. Not for about 30 years.
ran a Budd car out of Victoria up until about 2009 or thereabouts at a guess. when the tracks washed out north of Nanaimo they shortened the run for a year or so but then dropped it completely. Too bad cause it was a beautiful ride. They have been studying the feasibility of resuming service ever since.
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And there is a very vocal lobby group trying to bring the trains back but it would cost billions to upgrade the line, and the First Nations along the route are opposed so...
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No reference of it in the BC Terms of Union.
Part 2 (Schedule) - Part I: The Province of British Columbia - Enactment No. 4
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Canada is a family of 10 unruly spoilt kids - one of whom decides they want to speak a different language and demands a bigger allowance for doing nothing, and three more adopted kids who are probably thinking "WTF happened?".
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Yes, it does. Term 11.No reference of it in the BC Terms of Union.
Part 2 (Schedule) - Part I: The Province of British Columbia - Enactment No. 4
Final Report of the French Constitutional Drafting Committeewww.justice.gc.ca
The “seaboard of British Columbia” means Vancouver Island in this context.
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Where exactly is he proposing they build it in Canada?BC Ferries... making China great again
Rob Shaw: Poilievre slams BC Ferries deal as taxpayer-funded ‘slave labour’ in China
Conservative leader urges Ottawa to cancel $1B loan and help redirect ferry construction to Canada or democratic allies
CIB giving it a loan for work done outside the country is bullshit, but they will spend a few times more than the ferry is worth to build on operations and maintenance.
If BC mandated that the crown corp builds the ship in Canada, they would be waiting an awful long time, then you'd just get the shit tonne of ongoign complaints we get for the NSS about cost/schedule.
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not to mention with only a 1B budget that limits options, European yards were over budget which is why the Chinese won
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Depending on the way a project is tendered, and who is leading the show at the client end, a service provider who wants to avoid disaster might always be 'too busy'.
Just sayin'
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Depending on the way a project is tendered, and who is leading the show at the client end, a service provider who wants to avoid disaster might always be 'too busy'.
Just sayin'
Sure, and lots of reasons to not go through the work/costs to put in a bid. With their limited budget and timeline though, even if this could be built at the Seaspan yard they don't have capacity for a while.
There was an RFP years ago for an East Coast ferry that also went overseas, but that one had an exemption from the Build in Canada policy because no one in Canada could build an aluminum catamaran ferry that big in the facilities we have.
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That's an interesting interpretation.
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