Facial Armour... Thoughts?
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Interesting.... looks like some of the face masks out of the Star Wars / Predator movies.
1st reaction would be that it looks / would probably be hot as hell to wear in the summer months high heat (regardless of what the website says)
would have some concerns about some visual impairments - but I could be wrong
what about CBRN capabilities - can't see a gasmask squeezing in underneath
Has anyone tried this?
The face shield that we (engineers) have on our bomb suits appears to provide better vision than this BUT this face shield would appear to provide better protection.
1st reaction would be that it looks / would probably be hot as hell to wear in the summer months high heat (regardless of what the website says)
would have some concerns about some visual impairments - but I could be wrong
what about CBRN capabilities - can't see a gasmask squeezing in underneath
Has anyone tried this?
The face shield that we (engineers) have on our bomb suits appears to provide better vision than this BUT this face shield would appear to provide better protection.
I agree with the heat issue, also I'm not sure how they do ventilation/gas mask compliance. In any case it's certainly an interesting and pretty scary looking piece of equipment.
I'm also not sure whether it would work with the elcan scopes or any other optical sighting. I think it would just be for sub 100m shooting.
I'm also not sure whether it would work with the elcan scopes or any other optical sighting. I think it would just be for sub 100m shooting.
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While I agree that it'd definitely be hot to wear, if I was doing convoy security missions again with my face exposed out of the turret of a LAV, I'd try one out.
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I was waiting for someone to say that :Sig_Des said:
Matt made a very good point about wearing it when manning a turret. I've never done it myself but I assume there isn't a whole lot of running around
so over heating would probably be less of an issue.Looks pretty cool though, I'd love to see the look on someone's face when I burst through their door wearing that ;D
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I hope it doesn't give you the same feeling as going out for a run in your gas mask.............
With respect to sitting in a turret - I know we recently started integrating transparent blocks to improve the gunner's vision while keeping him protected. Not 100% certain this piece of kit is 100% necessary. Nice to have but....
With respect to sitting in a turret - I know we recently started integrating transparent blocks to improve the gunner's vision while keeping him protected. Not 100% certain this piece of kit is 100% necessary. Nice to have but....
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Life imitates art.
Pretty soon we will look like imperial storm troopers ;D
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Notice the mag on the rifle.
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Certainly an idea that has merit, but we also need to think of the effect of this kind of facial armour on the local population. A bunch of faceless stormtroopers/predators does not lend itself to making a good connection with the populace.
Maybe something that is put in the kit bag and brought out when the threat level warrants it.
Maybe something that is put in the kit bag and brought out when the threat level warrants it.
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Faceless, not necessarily.
We'll paint big smiles on them for your guys. ;-)
We'll paint big smiles on them for your guys. ;-)
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I should have seen that one coming! Maybe we could put an LCD screen on it that would show "smilies" like those used here?
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that would scare the shit out of people seeing a platoon of people wearing those. specially at night. good phycolgical warfare.
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Methinks it would muffle the voice quite a bit... not too good for clearing rooms. But I do agree with the extra protection in an exposed turret.
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Please....when you're rolling down Tampa at 30 km/h in the turret of a humvee trolling for IEDs the last thing you should be worried about is public relations. I'd wear one if I rode in a turret all day if it was comfortable.
One of the big complaints with the lvl 2A armoured glass visors is that in the event an IED they blow upwards, and they are also too heavy. This seems to address both problems with a bit less protection.
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One of the pictures taken from inside the helmet.
http://www.mtekweaponsystems.com/images/Untitled-9.jpg
Not intented to protect against Rifle fire, I havent been to afghanistan or iraq, But, from what ive seen on the news, all ive seen is various types of rifles and bombs used.
http://www.mtekweaponsystems.com/images/Untitled-9.jpg
Not intented to protect against Rifle fire, I havent been to afghanistan or iraq, But, from what ive seen on the news, all ive seen is various types of rifles and bombs used.
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Big Red,
Agreed. In a turret or hatch in a high threat area is one thing, but if you are sending out patrols as part of a stability op then connecting with the populace is a concern. Threat level should drive it. We do this with weapon and protective states as it is.
Agreed. In a turret or hatch in a high threat area is one thing, but if you are sending out patrols as part of a stability op then connecting with the populace is a concern. Threat level should drive it. We do this with weapon and protective states as it is.
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