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While there is a hap of having no heavy IFV to truly be a heavy brigade, I doubt someone had enough fore thought that that is what the 48 x 45T ones are for.
The 22 72T transporters could be enough to lift a Squadron plus ARVs and AEVs in about 1.5 lifts if we grouped them together in a Tank Tn Coy. Doubtful we have that in mind though, although maybe with the coming centralization of the tanks.
Such a Coy would be a perfect reserve Svc Bn task in my mind.
I suspect that the 48T will be parcelled out across the CA for moving primary our construction equipment, dozers, excavators etc. as well as LAVs for routine administrative equipment exchanges.
UK outlines future anti-armour requirementsThe UK’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) has unveiled the requirements for its future Battle Group Organic Anti-Armour (BGOAA) project, which aims to provide the British Army with a suite of anti-armour capabilities from around the 2030s.
BGOAA is split across four areas: a Close-In Self Defence (CISD) capability, a long-range Mounted Close Combat Overwatch (MCCO) capability akin to the Swingfire system of the past, and mounted and dismounted Close Combat Anti-Armour Weapons (CCAAW), which will form the successor to the in-service Javelin.
The project aims to deliver commonality between effectors and launchers to drive down costs while allowing a smaller, more dispersed British force to achieve overmatch against peer threats into the 2050s.
Commenting on the existing capabilities BGOAA is seeking to replace, British Army Lieutenant Colonel Mike Baxter, S01 for Light and Medium Forces, said: “These systems were designed in the 90s and 00s, typically as dismounted systems and not optimised for fire-on-the-move. One could also suggest that, during the lifetime of these systems, they have not really faced a significant armour threat.
“But armour or threats that have to be engaged by these weapons systems have been present throughout that time, and the scale and the complexity of use of those systems have probably exceeded the designers’ thoughts when they first brought those systems into use.”
Key to developing the four BGOAA project lines is developing a Ministry of Defence-owned architecture for effectors and fire control systems that would allow anti-armour systems to be rapidly upgraded to maintain their relevance.
Baxter said: “BGOAA takes the experience of the last few years with the aim of providing accurate, long-range engagement capabilities down to the section level against armoured and non-armoured targets, It also keeps in mind the potential for state-on-state or peer-on-peer conflict and the great power competition that seems to be making a comeback in world dynamics”.
“We still need to have lethality against armoured systems because, although not all may be top of the range vehicles, there is a prevalence and a proliferation of armour, right down to some relatively less well-developed nations.”
De-risking is currently underway on technologies to enable a new generation of seekers, systems that can defeat active protection systems, new launchers and warheads.
Dstl is also looking at critical enablers, including smaller, wider spectrum, low-cost sensors; non-line of sight capabilities; third-party handoff of targeting and fire control.
Dstl is also exploring how modular systems can allow for launchers and missiles to be diffused across platforms from trucks, the Boxer Mechanised Infantry Vehicle, the Ajax family of vehicles and uncrewed systems.
Dstl is working within the Weapon Systems Research Framework and with prime contractors, Lockheed Martin, MBDA and Thales, collaborating to develop potential concepts for the project’s work areas.
Mark Pickering, Dstl’s close combat guided weapons science and technology lead, said: “We often look at the conflicts we’ve fought over the last decade, and our future developments are slanted towards dealing with what the recent experience has shown us where we need the capability.
“The problem is that often means that we have the wrong equipment for the next generation of conflict. As part of the challenges, we need to look at being adaptable and being able to adapt to the changing environment around us, especially with the escalation of cyber technologies and similar.”
BGOAA aims to help the British Army meet several challenges, including keeping pace with rapidly developing technology, the proliferation of Active Protection Systems, and new imaging systems, making it harder to hide forces from adversaries.
Pickering added: “In the world of anti-armour, broadly we can say there have been incremental improvements in physical armour, but we’ve not seen any world-changing differences.
“However, what we have seen is quite a large proliferation in the integration of active protection systems [APS], and therefore future systems must be able to be highly capable against future APS.”
Other challenges facing the army are that dismounted systems can be too heavy, technology generally reserved for peer threats finding its way into the hands of traditionally sub-peer adversaries, and a need for the British Army to increase its combat mass.
BGOAA is currently in the pre-concept phase, with Dstl aiming to down-select from a pool of concepts over the next six month and generate a shortlist of ideas that would then undergo detailed analysis likely from 2022/23 onwards.
MCCO is seen as a capability akin to the Swingfire system (pictured). Image: MOD/ Crown Copyright.
MCCO – long-range supportDstl is prioritising the MCCO capability with Lockheed Martin, MBDA and Thales, all providing insight into potential concepts, including a Boxer-mounted VLS system previously covered by Army Technology and an Ajax vehicle equipped with a 50kg missile such as Brimstone or Hellfire. A key part of the architecture is to enable platforms to accommodate any missile or rapid adaption to different missile systems.
Commenting on MCCO, Pickering said: “If we took Swingfire nowadays, the Swingfire missile system would, noting the detectability of the host platform, would not provide anywhere near sufficient range. This is looking at providing an organic battle group anti-armour capability with a range in excess of 10 km.
“The idea is MCCO would be in a position to provide dedicated anti-armour support to any user within the battle group… to allow a dismounted force to be able to call in an MCCO-class effector.”
Lockheed Martin’s Boxer-based MCCO concept. Image: Lockheed Martin UK.
MCCO is envisioned as a long-range anti-armour capability that would engage targets at a range of 10km and above, with threats cued by third-party systems within a battle group. Current work envisions the system carrying 50kg effectors – for example, the weight of a Brimstone missile – but concept work has also explored the potential of effectors up to 80kg in weight.
The MCCO capability would deliver ‘overwhelming’ anti-armour capabilities and is a move away from the past-decades reliance on only dismounted anti-armour systems.
Current concepts being explored would see effectors distributed across uncrewed ground vehicles able to carry two missiles, remote turrets fitted to existing vehicles carrying eight missiles, or vertical launch system capabilities able to carry 36 or more missiles.
MBDA concept showing Brimstone equipped uncrewed ground vehicles, Boxer and Ares. Image: MBDA.
These systems could sit behind front line forces, or, safely hidden by terrain, receive targets from other vehicles and fire missiles in support of them.
During a presentation on the capability, Dstl showcased concepts from MBDA detailing an Ares vehicle carrying eight Brimstone missiles on a swing launcher as well as a Boxer module carrying 16 Brimstone missiles on one side of the vehicle as well as its previously shown concept of a TheMIS UGV carrying a Brimstone launcher.
Dstl also showed a concept developed by Thales showing an Ares vehicle equipped with a remote turret that does not protrude into the vehicle’s hull and carried eight missiles. Thales has also developed a long-term concept for a future Light VLS vehicle.
Thales Ares remote turret concept. Image: Thales.
As well as devising the Boxer module, Lockheed Martin has also developed a concept for an ISO container filled with VLS tubes and carried on a MAN SV truck. This MAN SV-based system would be able to carry 50 plus missiles.
The project is also exploring how some loitering capabilities could be added to effectors, not to allow for long-term loitering of a location, but rather to let it circle a target while a smoke-screen clears. This fits into BGOAA’s ambition to develop systems that have a high one-shot-kill probability.
Additionally, MCCO is working with an ambition to engage attack helicopters as a secondary capability.
Lockheed Martin’s ISO container-based MCCO concept. Image: Lockheed Martin UK.
CISD – following on from NLAW and ASMAt the closer range end of the spectrum, the CISD capability would form a successor to the Next-generation Light Anti-Armour Weapon (NLAW) and Anti-Structure Munition (ASM). Like other BGOAA lines of effort, plans for this capability would see a system with a significantly extended range when compared to in-service systems.
Dstl is exploring several lines of effort for the potential solution, including whether it would be best to optimise for the anti-armour fight or provide multiple effects and researching whether two systems delivering both capabilities would be more effective.
The ambition is that the CISD capability could be deployed anywhere within a battlegroup.
NLAW firing. Image: MOD/ Crown Copyright.
CCAAW – mounted and dismounted effectsThe CCAAW capability, the successor to the Javelin, would see a common effector fireable from either a mounted or dismounted launcher. Dstl envisages the system having at least twice the range of the in-service Javelin – bolstering its potential to be used in non-line of sight engagements.
The idea behind making CCAAW effective in the non-line of sight fight is that while adversary vehicle commanders can currently detect potential lines of fire and mitigate threats, this system would put adversary armoured vehicles on the back foot as they could effectively be hit from anywhere.
Current research is also looking at how non-conventional guidance systems could be developed for this capability to make adversaries defensive capabilities redundant. However, this is described as a high-risk, high-reward endeavour.
Javelin firing. Image: MOD/ Crown Copyright.
JUST IN: Air Force Looking at How to Scale New Combat Drone Programs1/19/2022
By Meredith Roaten
Lockheed Martin concept
The Air Force will work with industry to determine how to scale its new secretive combat drone programs, the head of the service said Jan. 19.
Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall revealed plans in December for two unmanned aircraft programs that could complement the service’s Next-Generation Air Dominance effort, also known as NGAD. The initiatives — which include concepts for partnering multiple drones with a crewed aircraft such as an NGAD platform or an F-35 joint strike fighter — will seek input from contractors, he said.
“There's a question of how much [platform teaming there should be], at what scale and to what extent — that we're gonna have to work on, but I want to move forward on this in a way which gets us to real operational capability,” he said at an event hosted by the Center for a New American Security.
“We're gonna bring people in — this is going to be largely a special access program level — and we're going to figure out how to do this as effectively as possible,” he added.
The NGAD program is expected to yield a family of systems — to potentially include a sixth-generation fighter jet and drones — that are intended to give the U.S. military an edge against advanced adversaries such as China and Russia.
While Kendall declined to provide more details about the programs publicly, he noted the concept of teaming manned and unmanned platforms is not new. The Defense Department and U.S. allies have done enough experimentation that Kendall said he is confident the programs will succeed.
“There's enough technology or existence from programs that we've already conducted that convinces me that's not a crazy idea, that it's something we can achieve,” he said.
It is imperative for the drones to be cheaper than manned aircraft in order to expand the Air Force’s tactical options, he noted.
“If we only do very expensive aircraft for the Air Force, we're not going to be able to forward at ... anywhere near the size that we either need or have today,” he said.
The new platforms should also be “attritible if not expendable,” he added
“That opens up a whole range of tactics that we currently would not contemplate because we'd be sacrificing manned aircraft and we're not going to do that,” he said.
Kendall told Politico in December that he wanted to get the new combat drone programs into the fiscal year 2023 budget. President Joe Biden is expected to submit his budget request to Congress in the coming months.
All over the U.S., state National Guard units are seeing dramatic reenlistment rates, even as their troops juggle near constant duties with COVID-19, natural disasters and other military deploymentsabcnews.go.com
They missed the memo that the IFV program was cancelled - or the memo it's back isn't public yet.While there is a hap of having no heavy IFV to truly be a heavy brigade, I doubt someone had enough fore thought that that is what the 48 x 45T ones are for.
We kinda did the same thing to the Philippines....They missed the memo that the IFV program was cancelled - or the memo it's back isn't public yet.
Given the latest in Ukraine - I wouldn't bet against a quick refresh on CCAV or whatever it was called.
But you probably don't want to buy anything German these days, they want to be able to tell you where you can use it...
A very good article and very much confirms my own biases. In short the need for a "plan".The article discusses the Army's successful transition from the COIN-centric army of the Vietnam era to the Euro-centric Air-Land force of the Reagan era.
It considers Equipment, Personnel and Doctrine and uses my second favourite word.
Be All You Can Be: Why the Marine Corps Should Look to the Army for Lessons on Force Design - Modern War InstituteThe United States Marine Corps has embarked upon a campaign of change as significant as any since the end of the Vietnam War. The Marine Corps’s collective efforts, named Force Design 2030, have emphasized a focus on China after nearly two decades of constant low-intensity conflict and...mwi.usma.edu
There is a plan. There are desires. There is reality.
The binding element is my favourite word:
Doctrine codifies the Intent.Your assertion that "Doctrine is Everything" comes as a surprise. I would never have guessed that you would be a stickler for "The Word".
I prefer to pursue the Intent rather than the Ideal. I'd rather approach my intent in this world while I'm still breathing, and be satisfied with a job done well enough.
For me doctrine has to be malleable to meet the exigencies of the current situation.
I'd sooner a short, clear statement of Intent with doctrine changing than try to define a multifarious doctrine that defines a solution for every situation.
But then I don't like poring over the NDA, QR&Os, CFAOs and DAODs either. I understand there are people so inclined.
Doctrine codifies the Intent.
Without Doctrine, there is chaos. Intent can often be fuddled with, and you end up with the 1 million LAV Army…
Doctrine Evolves, and needs to, as well as needs to be based on reality.
But you can’t blame doctrine when the Army doesn’t follow it.
My point is, if you base your Doctrine for a Peer/Near Peer conflict based on a Heavy Bde, then you need to have a Heavy Bde.
I think the CA has missed the boat in this respect. Playing too much with the US Army Heavy Forces has led to Heavy thinking, without the Heavy Forces to go along.
IMHO the CAF would be better suited to look at the USMC and 18th ABN rather than III Corps for a role model. Which would also mean telling NATO that there isn’t a CAF Heavy Bde for them - which there isn’t anyway.
True - but those units either support XVIII or Heavy forces. They are ‘gap fillers’.Heck they could even look at Stryker units and formations as models. The step up from what we have to those units wouldn't be ridiculous.
True - but those units either support XVIII or Heavy forces. They are ‘gap fillers’.
Neither Fish Nor Fowl, and while great to help either - they aren’t a solo entity.
I’d rather have 1 Reg Heavy Bde, a Reg Light Bde and move the LAV’s to Reserves on 30/70 Medium Bde’s.
Frankly the Reserves as they stand currently are useless.I agree they aren't a solo entity. But apparently we aren't going to fight solo. And we also don't seem to feel the need to operate independently on our home turf.
In both cases the vehicles are more important than the guns they might, on occasion, have to transport.
Batteries, Bandages, Blankets and Beans. And good radios.