Joining the CF right after high school.

[ConradJon]

I've really been giving it a lot of thought lately and I'm sure this is the way for me to go. Before, I thought that going into business was my destiny, and that one day I would be a millionaire-billionaire. Then one day I just really started to think things through, and in the end, knew that it was just a dream, and not one I could follow through in. While I did have many dream occupations, joining the forces was ALWAYS a back up option, that I now consider my first and only choice. Maybe I've played to much COD, but fighting for my country just sounds great, and alot more action oriented than anything I ever considered. I am currently in Gr.12 and finally, my questions are

- Will I be looked at differently just for not attending a uni, or RMC?

- The cadet position pay isn't that appealing, and I was wondering how long I would be staying in that position? Or how long approximately would it take to reach Captain?

-My friend is also planning on doing the same thing as me (We both made this choice before we realized that each of us wanted to do this), whats the chances of us being together? Planning on Infantry soldier, or Armoured

Yes I will be joining as a Regular. Sorry for the story, first time posting here. Thank you in advance for the help, I appreciate it.

 

[PMedMoe]

- Will I be looked at differently just for not attending a uni, or RMC?

- The cadet position pay isn't that appealing, and I was wondering how long I would be staying in that position? Or how long approximately would it take to reach Captain?

You can't join as an officer without a degree.

-My friend is also planning on doing the same thing as me (We both made this choice before we realized that each of us wanted to do this), whats the chances of us being together? Planning on Infantry soldier, or Armoured

Not very likely.

 

[aesop081]

- Will I be looked at differently just for not attending a uni, or RMC? 

If you want to joinas an officer, you WILL be going to university or RMC.

If you want to join as a NCM, nobody will care as it is not required.

- The cadet position pay isn't that appealing, and I was wondering how long I would be staying in that position? Or how long approximately would it take to reach Captain?

So i take it you want to be an officer then. You WILL be going to university or RMC.

-My friend is also planning on doing the same thing as me (We both made this choice before we realized that each of us wanted to do this), whats the chances of us being together? Planning on Infantry soldier, or Armoured

You have better odds of winning the 6/49.

 

[Alea]

Hi Conrad,

Before anything, you should really consider contacting your recruiting center and speak with someone there. They will answer all your questions and more.

- Will I be looked at differently just for not attending a uni, or RMC?

I don't see why this would be. A lot a military people did not go to RMC nor university... Unless you want to be an officer which looks like it since you're speaking about reaching the rank of Captain.

- The cadet position pay isn't that appealing, and I was wondering how long I would be staying in that position? Or how long approximately would it take to reach Captain?

Ask a recruiter.

-My friend is also planning on doing the same thing as me (We both made this choice before we realized that each of us wanted to do this), whats the chances of us being together? Planning on Infantry soldier, or Armoured

Probably very few chances. It all depends when both of you get hired by the CF then where you get posted.

first time posting here. Thank you in advance for the help, I appreciate it.

Enjoy READING and SEARCHING through the site. You will learn a lot.

Alea

 

[ConradJon]

What if I was to join University for something like Criminology? After I get a degree would I be able to become an officer in the army? Ah man, cause if so that really sucks for me, cause I just lost my pin code, and applying for uni ends tomorrow.

 

[Alea]

What if I was to join University for something like Criminology? After I get a degree would I be able to become an officer in the army?

Yes.

And again, you should walk into your recruiting center and speak with someone.

Alea

 

[ConradJon]

Thanks, I will do so tomorrow, as they are closed atm. My final questions will be, Under what plan would I fall into? (ROTP,DEO etc.) and do I have to have a really high average to join a certified uni so I can apply for ROTP? My average is somewhere between a 70-75 atm, which can be improved in 2nd semester as most of my complicated courses were in this first semester.

 

[PMedMoe]

Look here:  http://www.forces.ca/

Start using the search function here and reading other threads.  There are several on this topic.

 

[George Wallace]

Thanks, I will do so tomorrow, as they are closed atm. My final questions will be, Under what plan would I fall into? (ROTP,DEO etc.) and do I have to have a really high average to join a certified uni so I can apply for ROTP? My average is somewhere between a 70-75 atm, which can be improved in 2nd semester as most of my complicated courses were in this first semester.

What you average is at the Bank machine doesn't matter.  If you would like to have a better picture of what you are looking at, READ some of the topics here in the forums and they will fill you in on what you need to know. 



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[ConradJon]

I meant 70-75 as in my grade %. How exactly do I sign up for ROTP if possible? And would my average suffice or do i have to makes sure I get a certain average while having that plan? And is RMC a college or university?  Again sorry for all the questions

 

[Alea]

I meant 70-75 as in my grade %. How exactly do I sign up for ROTP if possible? And would my average suffice or do i have to makes sure I get a certain average while having that plan? And is RMC a college or university?  Again sorry for all the questions

CONTACT A RECRUITER and START READING ON THE FORUM

Alea

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/board,56.0.html

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/board,35.0.html

 

[George Wallace]

I meant 70-75 as in my grade %. How exactly do I sign up for ROTP if possible? And would my average suffice or do i have to makes sure I get a certain average while having that plan? And is RMC a college or university?  Again sorry for all the questions

Did you read the topic on RMC and the topics on University Programs, Entry Plans for officers, etc.?

Did you also have a look at http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/24937.0.html

 

[Journeyman]

Look here:  http://www.forces.ca/
Start using the search function here and reading other threads.  There are several on this topic.

How exactly do I sign up for ROTP if possible?

It seems as though you're actively avoiding the advice to search/read before asking questions.
You really should read through the recruiting threads and visit the CF recruiting site.


I only mention this because soon some people will be along....and well, they can be rude -- I know they scare me -- but maybe that's because I tend to cheerfully go out of my way to help new people asking dumbass, repetitive questions.  :nod:

 

[Shamrock]

- Will I be looked at differently just for not attending a uni, or RMC?

Attendance in either has its advantages and disadvantages.  RMC has a good network you can tap into as a new subby.  You'll also likely leave with a few of your OPME's finished, which can be very time consuming.  And, from what I'm starting to learn, it has a fairly broad spectrum of education. 

Civ U has women.

- The cadet position pay isn't that appealing, and I was wondering how long I would be staying in that position? Or how long approximately would it take to reach Captain?

You will remain an OCdt/NCdt until you receive your commission.  When you receive that comission depends on your entry plan: ROTP, DEO, or CEOTP.

-My friend is also planning on doing the same thing as me (We both made this choice before we realized that each of us wanted to do this), whats the chances of us being together? Planning on Infantry soldier, or Armoured

One in cement mixer.  Officer selection is quite competitive.  However, you're looking well beyond just recruitment.  You're asking if you will both be given the same trade, in the same intake.  Several BMOQ's are run each year, as well as quite a few BMOQ-L.  Following that, you'll have DP1.1 and 1.2.  Courses for ROTP are ran during the summers between spring and fall terms; they typically run 10-16 weeks.  This means that should you fail to complete a course for any reason your training will potentially be one year delayed.

I did the equivalent of BMOQ-L and both DP1's with mostly all the same individuals.  It's fairly common, really.

 

[ConradJon]

Thanks for the help guys. But I have 1 final question, sorry. Can I become a regular NCM infantry from taking a criminology course in college?

Edit: And yes, I will be contacting the recruitment center when they are open, thanks.

 

[aesop081]

Can I become a regular NCM infantry from taking a criminology course in college?

Yes. A college education is not a requirement for Infantry.

 

[ConradJon]

Yes but I do wish to be an officer or ncm, and be able to be promoted.

 

[aesop081]

Yes but I do wish to be an officer or ncm, and be able to be promoted.

Holy f**k !!!

NCM = Highschool education required

Officer = University.

You join either one.......

An NCM with grade 10 still gets promoted...........

 

[GAP]

Start READING....you are insisting to be spoonfed all the information without making any effort.....there's scads of information here in the recruiting threads, so make the effort.

 

[ConradJon]

Alright I'm done, sorry for the trouble. I'll remember it next time.

Edit: And thank you everyone for the help.