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Hi, I signed out for an enlisment in the Naval Reserve(H.C.M.S Champlain), Well I got all the stuff done, I passed the Test with 28 Points(26 was the minimum) but I got not qualified for any  of the job I was applying for(not even for be a Cook). Well I want to know if I can change out from the Reserve to the Regular Force(Canadian Land Force/Army)  where I could surmently get a Job with a score of 28 to the test, due that I have an open file in the recruitment center. Do I need to start over or I can change out?
 
As long as the Nav Res did not "enrol" you, just submit a NEW application online and select "Regular Force".  Should be as simple as that.
 
It could be more simple to call out to the Recruitement office and ask them If i Can change my Application or just make me fill a new one by keeping my CFAT result score? because I have filled all the documents and I don't want to Start over all again.
 
hosers said:
It could be more simple to call out to the Recruitement office and ask them If i Can change my Application or just make me fill a new one by keeping my CFAT result score? because I have filled all the documents and I don't want to Start over all again.

Your CFAT result score is NOW good for life!  To have your enrolment plan changed from Res F to Reg F will require a NEW application.  Your current CFRC "might" be wiling to do that on site but it is up to them but they may very well tell you to submit a NEW application online.  You can always ask them!

Now as much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news......  When you say you "scored only 28 points" on the Test, I am assuming you mean the CFAT?  And if that is the case, then that score is the same score used for the Regular Force and the "standards" for the Regular Force and the Reserve Force are the same.

So if you are NOT qualifying for any of the jobs that you applied for with the Nav Res, you are definitely not going to qualify for any of those jobs with the Regular Force.  Nor any other component of the CF.

You may wish to rethink things....
 
Well, DAA, I possibly could be qualified for be  an Infantry soldier or in the Artillery with a score of 28 surmently don't need high scores like NavComm. I will try, but If i can't its bad for me
 
hosers said:
Well, DAA, I possibly could be qualified for be  an Infantry soldier or in the Artillery with a score of 28 surmently don't need high scores like NavComm.

That is what most people like to think.  But the reality of it is, that the requirements to become an Infantry or Artillery soldier are for the most part, much much higher than for 80% of the other occupations in the CF.

 
Your best option is to go and speak directly with a Recruiter at your local CFRC.  They are there to help you and the question you need to ask them is "What occupations exactly do I qualify for".  It will be an eye opener for you but the Recruiter should be able to answer that question and there is absolutely nothing wrong with you asking that and them answering it.  Then you need to go away and research those occupations and then decide if that is really what you want to do.

 
hosers said:
Well I send an Email to my local recruitment center.

If you are close by, I would suggest you go and speak with them directly, face-to-face.  If you're not close, then email it is.

Good luck!
 
It's weird, do they give out the score in the reserves? Because my file manager was rather adamant about telling me the scores, except that I qualified for everything.
 
Chelomo said:
It's weird, do they give out the score in the reserves?

CFAT scores 
"Scores are not released. Scores are not given out."
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/70626/post-972057.html#msg972057
 
I am reserves Infantry and I was not told a specific numerical score. He was "Impressed" and that i scored "higher than 90 % of the university graduates that apply". Realistically, the numerical value of your score doesn't mean much, the reason being that you're being assessed against other applicants, as far as i am aware.
 
mariomike said:
CFAT scores 
"Scores are not released. Scores are not given out."
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/70626/post-972057.html#msg972057

Even if the score was to be given out, it doesn't mean anything to the applicant because it is only one of many "x-factors" in the total/overall equation.  By being given a score only serves to create "expectations" that make them think they are either going to be offered a job or not be offered a job.

Personally, I think that the test results should be provided once they have been confirmed.  Why?  There is absolutely nothing to stop an applicant from submitting a "Privacy Act" request and ultimtely obtaining the scores anyhow. 

Think about this along the lines of todays PERs.  Years ago you were never provided with a copy (but now you are) and before that, you didn't even get to see Sect 5.  But if you submitted a request to Ottawa, you got all of it.
 
Chelomo said:
It's weird, do they give out the score in the reserves? Because my file manager was rather adamant about not telling me the scores, except that I qualified for everything.

Yeah, I know they don't give out the scores, because it's all relative to the other applicants, made a slight typo above :P Anyway, it was why I was surprised that the OP had an actual numerical score.
 
If you are still "young" enough where you could put off the military for a couple more years, you might want to consider trying to up your education and then speak to the recruiting center about doing the CFAT test over again. Many provinces (I am not sure if all) have free options for doing high school level courses for Adults. Usually these courses are offered online.

It takes a lot of discipline to force yourself to do high school courses as an "adult", but if you think the military is a good career path for you, it would be worth the time and effort because a year of just high school Math and English could help you a lot on the test.
 
Moon said:
CFAT can be done twice i tought?

Speaking from my own experience - I recently went in to speak with my CFRC about re-writing the CFAT in order to attempt a higher score to make my file more competitive. I originally qualified for all trades however my math score kept me from qualifying Officer, but I digress. Essentially they told me that I could request a waiver to be allowed to re-write but that since applying to the CF is so competitive right now my chances were not good. She said they have so many qualified applicants applying right now that they don't need to let people re-write.

The best thing the OP can do is ask his CFRC what trades he did qualify for and if he can request a waiver to re-write the CFAT if he so chooses. The worst they can say is "No", but I think it would be worse to never ask.

Good Luck!!
 
I'm ok , i not even do it once. I am finish my college degree first. I think i should prepare myself for this test eheh. What is the mark for an officer? (Sorry for my english, i have some trouble finding the wright word, i am a french canadian but still a proudly canadian :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn:)
 
Moon said:
I'm ok , i not even do it once. I am finish my college degree first. I think i should prepare myself for this test eheh. What is the mark for an officer? (Sorry for my english, i have some trouble finding the wright word, i am a french canadian but still a proudly canadian :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn: :cdn:)
Unless it's changed in the last 12 years (entirely likely) it was 36 when I went through the testing.
 
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