• Thanks for stopping by. Logging in to a registered account will remove all generic ads. Please reach out with any questions or concerns.

Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage

Pieman

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
27
Points
530
Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
They set 24-hour deadline for Seoul to pull soldiers from Iraq
Sunday, June 20, 2004 Posted: 2310 GMT (0710 HKT)

On the videotape the man cried in English, "Please get out of here. I don't want to die. ... Your life is important, but my life is important."

The South Korean Foreign Ministry in Seoul confirmed that the man shown in the videotape is Kim Sun-il, 33, who works for a trading company. It was not known when or how he was taken hostage.

The Foreign Ministry planned an emergency meeting Monday morning to discuss Seoul's reaction to the development and steps to take toward Kim's release.

An official with the South Korean Embassy in Washington said South Korea has about 600 troops in the country and plans to send another 3,000.

The deployment will make South Korea the third-largest contributor to coalition forces, after the United States and Britain. (Full story)

The video showed Kim seated in front of three men whose faces are covered with scarves.

Two of the men held rifles; the third delivered an ultimatum to South Korea's government.

"We ask the government of South Korea and the people of Korea to pull their forces out of Iraq and not to send additional forces," the man said.

"Otherwise, we will send this hostage's head back to them and, God willing, we will kill more of your troops in Iraq. And you have 24 hours, starting tonight."

In Baghdad, South Korea's ambassador to Iraq said he was aware of the tape and had no comment.

Al-Jazeera's editor in chief, Ahmed al-Sheikh, said the tape was left Sunday at the network's office in Baghdad and that he verified it was authentic before broadcasting segments of it. He did not broadcast the entire tape because some of it was repetitious, he said.


(CNN) -- The Arabic-language television network Al-Jazeera broadcast a videotape Sunday night of a man identified as a
South Korean hostage whose captors threatened to behead him unless his government quits the U.S.-led coalition occupying Iraq.
----------------------------------------
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/20/iraq.hostage/index.html
 
Holy hell, these guys are serious.

Well obviously they want us out and they are not going to change their minds so maybe we should pull all our troops out. You know, let them run the place.

Once were out of their country and they run the show (sending weapons to any nutbar who will buy em)  they can start kidnaping our citizens from austrailia, germany, japan, wherever, and start the show over again.
"Were going to kill this american/canadian/british citizen if you don't send us a billion dollars".  "Were going to kill this group of hostages unless you infidels all kill youreselves"  "Were going to kill everyone we can until you guys let elvis out of prison, blow up every mcdonalds int he world and leave batboy alone"

The minute a country caves in and shows these murderers they can get what they want by threatening violence we'll see a trend of it start up.

Wait a minute, a country already did that.
 
Spain correct? anyway i agree 100% with you, we (free countries of the world) must never give in to these terrorists threats, actions, fight to the last drop of blood if we must, because the world without a free society is a society on the brink of Apocalypse
 
I'm still surprised at Spain. No self respecting country would give in..... be angry, feel remorseful.....never give in. Let them kill him...no MURDER him. Then let your soldiers loose. Show no mercy for these filthy animals. And when you do keep that mans words in your head and on the tip of your tongue. Show them we won't be pushed or swayed from helping those who want help.
 
Spain  gave in, and has it changed anything for them? They are still as big as target as theywere before they left iraq, and the terrs are still within their borders waiting for the next weak moment.

Sad but true.

Wes
 
Good to hear the Koreans will not bow down to terrorist.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
South Korea says it will send troops to Iraq despite the abduction of citizen
03:45 AM EDT Jun 21
 
A man identified as South Korean Kim Sun-il, front, sits in front of his captors in this image taken from an undated but recent video obtained by Al-Jazeera television station Sunday. (AP/Al-Jazeera via APTN) 
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - South Korea's deputy foreign minister said Monday that Seoul will not change its plan to send 3,000 soldiers to Iraq despite the recent kidnapping of a South Korean man there.

Choi Young-jin made the announcement after government officials held an emergency meeting to discuss the abduction that tested South Korea's resolve just days after it announced plans to send 3,000 troops to assist the U.S.-led coalition.

"There is no change in the government's spirit and position that it will send troops to Iraq to help establish peace and rebuild Iraq," Choi said at a news conference.

The Arab satellite TV network Al-Jazeera aired a videotape Sunday purportedly from al-Qaida-linked militants showing a South Korean hostage begging for his life and pleading with his government to withdraw troops already in Iraq.

The kidnappers, who identified themselves as belonging to a group led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, gave South Korea 24 hours to meet its demand that Korean troops stay out of Iraq or "we will send you the head of this Korean."

South Korean media identified the hostage as Kim Sun-il, 33, an employee of South Korea's Gana General Trading, Co., a supplier for the U.S. military.

South Korea warned its people Saturday not to travel to Iraq, saying its decision to send troops there might prompt terror attacks on South Koreans.

Seoul said Friday it will send 3,000 soldiers to the Irbil area in northern Iraq beginning in August. Some 600 South Korean military medics and engineers currently in the southern city of Nasiriyah will redeploy to Irbil.

Once the deployment is complete, South Korea will be the largest U.S. partner in the coalition after Britain.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/040620/w062062.html
 
Spain should grab some brass ones and send troops back to Iraq.  As Wes indicated, the pull accomplished nothing but diminishing their stature among the international community.  The free nations of the world must not capitulate to these terrorist tactics.  It'll only provide them with more confidence.

I also really love how these terrorist cowards always hide their identities.
 
What they need to do is respond along these lines:

"In response to the idiotic request by a bunch of thugs who claim to represent Islam, the Government of Korea has no choice but to triple their troop presence in the region.  Forces will be made up of Korean Black Ops Specialists, who will be working to execute terrorists.  This initiative has the full support of the American and Saudi governments".

Every time they hold a hostage, send a multiple of troops.  Make such actions obviously counter-productive.

Never refer to them as "terrorists" but instead use terms like "sub-human slimebags who make war on non-combatants".  Add a point or two about how they've broken with the principles of Islam while you're at it.  Propaganda?  Yes, but war involves propaganda, and they've declared war.

"Today, in breach of the rules of Islam which require that good Muslims not make war on women and children, a sub-human slimebag terrorist blew up a bus, killing a number of innocents.  Since this event has no political significance, and because such people are obviously too stupid to understand that they aren't making any progress, the Israeli government is planning to track them down and kill them.  But, this is all they deserve.  Ted? "

"Thanks Marsha.  They obviously haven't learned that nobody cares.  In other news, the pound was up 4.2 points today...."

Just treat them with the contempt they have earned, and make sure that anyone who would sympathise has reasons to feel the same contempt.
 
If it were possible to get the media to cooperate[you won't] this idea is not as far-fetched as it sounds.
Good post,
Bruce
 
Part of the problem is the media in the west. They give non stop 24 hour CNN coverage for both the Berg execution and this new guy. They whip the public up and give the terrorist suspects so much attention, which is exactly what they are after.

Do the terrorists want peace? No, they want war. They want more people to fight and crusade against. Once they saw how everyone over reacted to the Berg execution, they said "A ha! Now we know how to get their attention. We found a good strategy. We will do this more often, look how much attention they give us now".

The media should report the news, say someone got killed and beheaded, but dont then say you can find the video on the internet, and show clips on the news, then interview the families and friends who are all riled up with bloodlust, and then go on for 20 more hours with middle east experts saying "this is the fault of their culture blah blah blah" then doctors and beheading experts saying how exactly someone will die once they are beheaded, then get the president to say how barbaric these people are and all that crap.

All of that only serves to benefit the terrorists. They want attention. They say how they want all westerners out of the holy land, did anyone living in the west give a shit about what they wanted before? No, of course not. But now that they are getting all this attention, they think that people will now listen, and they need to keep the attention on them, so they kill more people, and the media goes orgasmic with coverage every time something new does happen.

As I said, the media should just report the news, so that people know whats happening in the world, but not go over the top insane about it.

Terrorists dont just use violence for their war, they also use the media. The media, of course will not wake up and stop helping the terrorists, because making their money and getting their ratings is more important.
 
The terrorists don't even want us to cave in to their demands. They make unrealistic demands in unrealistic timeframes, just so they can use it as a justification to kill. Then they go off and put out some statement justifying this beheading or killing and hide behind Islam while they are at it.

The sad thing is they get the airtime for their propaganda videos and statements both in the Middle East and in the Western world. Every time a new video comes out from bin Laden or one of his henchmen, Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya are the first to carry it, then it is around the world within minutes, on CNN, BBC, CBC, and just about every other media outlet on the face of the earth.

This war on terror isn't going to be won solely by force. It is fine to send soldiers to Iraq or Afghanistan with the goal of sending these punks to Allah, but every time you hear their crap on television or read it in the newspaper, it is playing to their interests, young Muslims are reading and hearing that and the terrorists are recruiting more and more people to join "the cause".

If the media quit running their messages and propaganda, fewer and fewer people would be joining their cause. Their goal is to put the world against the West. It is a war of ideas. Our ideas against the ideas of the Muslim extremists. It is like the cold war against Communism. Helping the enemy put his message out is counter-productive.
 
A Very Brady Newscast?

Ted & Marsha....a very 70's view of newscasters, apparently.  Oh well, I'm just showing my age I guess.
 
Unfortonate ending to this. I had  reports saying that the terrorists had extended the deadline, but it turns out those reports were false.
Everytime I read about a situation like this it makes me more and more angry and we are sitting on the sidelines. How long before a Canadian is beheaded? God forbid.

----------------------------------------------
Militants behead South Korean captive: report
Militants purportedly linked to al-Qaeda have beheaded a South Korean hostage being held captive in Iraq, Al-Jazeera television reports
----------------------------------------------
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/06/22/world/korean_hostage040622
 
R.I.P. Kim Sun-Il.

It's time to turn every available South Korean troop loose on these animals.

 
"Were going to kill this group of hostages unless you infidels all kill youreselves"

Im waiting for them to use that one. How is Spain ranked by the US? Lower than Canada?
 
OK, we, the free people of the world seriously need to look at a way to make this madness end, they give a short unrealistic deadline to meet, which you can't meet. but what will these animals do next, god only knows, it is a fucked up world out there, and we need to do something about it

R.I.P. Kim Sun-IL. Paul Johnson. Nick berg.

we will find a solution, and we WILL make these bastards pay.....


what do you think needs to be done to stop these horrific events?
 
In order for these beheadings and other terrorist actions to stop, we have to eliminate every last one of the scumbags committing the crimes. They have no rationale, they cannot be negotiated with, in fact I doubt they even want to negotiate, they only want to justify their killings in the Muslim world. Justifying their killings as part of the "jihad" against the "infidels" promotes their cause, makes it out to be glorious and heroic and only brings them more fresh recruits to their terror training camps in Afghanistan and around the world.

Along with eliminating the ones who are already lost causes, we also have to educate the Arab world that our values of peace, security, freedom, democracy and the whole 9 yards is better than the values held by the terrorists that blowing yourself up brings you eternal paradise.

The terrorists use the Koran and their twisted interpretation to promote violence against Westerners. We need to work with clerics, moderate Muslims, etc. to tell Arabs that there really is something better out there for them than joining the likes of Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, or one of the other Islamic terror groups. A lot of the people who join such groups are young and bored, there is no employment they can find so they see no future for themselves in anything else but fighting the ones who they perceive as taking their jobs away. For example, in Saudi Arabia (where 70 percent of the population is under 19 years of age) there are many university graduates who just can't find jobs while Americans, Canadians, Britons, Japanese, etc. are living in the kingdom, taking away many high paying jobs.

The war on terror is going to be fought using militaries, but it will be won through diplomacy, through education, through working with Arabs, and through giving jobs back to the Arabs.
 
Military Brat said:
.....The terrorists use the Koran and their twisted interpretation to promote violence against Westerners. We need to work with clerics, moderate Muslims, etc. to tell Arabs that there really is something better out there for them than joining the likes of Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, or one of the other Islamic terror groups. A lot of the people who join such groups are young and bored, there is no employment they can find so they see no future for themselves in anything else but fighting the ones who they perceive as taking their jobs away. For example, in Saudi Arabia (where 70 percent of the population is under 19 years of age) there are many university graduates who just can't find jobs while Americans, Canadians, Britons, Japanese, etc. are living in the kingdom, taking away many high paying jobs.

The war on terror is going to be fought using militaries, but it will be won through diplomacy, through education, through working with Arabs, and through giving jobs back to the Arabs.

Well said.
 
Back
Top