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Joan, not sure what precipitated this but I have always found your emails
respectful, insightful, and humourous. You have every right to your privacy
and are most welcome here. Maybe there is some "witch hunting‘ going on by
some members here primarily because of our 1st Lt. who seems to have
disappeared clearly proving he wasn‘t who he said he was. Anyone else agree?
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Joan O. Arc [mailto:joan_o_arc@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:20 AM
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Subject: An off-topic - but important - post Mike B. - Forgive me!
As *my* final word on this "who are you" stuff that‘s been in the air
lately, let me make a few long-winded points If you‘re a list member who‘s
sick of this stuff by now As I am! please delete NOW to save yourself some
time.:
1 In case anyone thinks they should start in with any of that "exactly
where do you live/work" stuff with me, let me tell you right now you can
forget it. Having told you I‘m a reasonably young, reasonably attractive
woman, there is no way on God‘s green earth I am going to give out that
information to a bunch of strangers on-line. And if you can‘t figure out why
that is, then I can‘t help you because clearly you are either: a stupid, b
crazy, or c a professional pervert.
2 Since we‘re playing Spanish Inquisition If our amateur detectives figure
I can‘t possibly be a girl because I quote Python endlessly, I say, "Buzz
off." My husband received a couple of Python DVDs for Xmas, and it‘s been a
long, cold winter here, hence the ready supply of quotes..., let me point
out that although many of the list members know each other, I have no clue
who *any* of you are. Is John Gow a tree surgeon? Is Don Schepens a
belly-dancer no offense, Don!? Is J-F a podiatrist? Is Mac a volunteer
fireman? And where do you all live? Two blocks away from me? In
Lloydminster? On the moon?
You see, one of the great drawbacks of this on-line stuff is that it almost
always involves an element of trust and uncertainty that can be faintly
off-putting for everyone involved. Knowing this, I have "played it straight"
in dealing with the members of this list from the beginning, but if there
are people here who can‘t handle my request that I be allowed to conceal
some bits of personal info. - for whatever reason - it seems to me that
maybe Gow is right - maybe you *should* go do your own thing in private,
where "outsiders" can‘t interfere or intrude.
3 That said, I‘m particularly steamed about this nonsense because I‘ve
actually grown incredibly fond of most of the regular posters over the past
few months, which is why I myself have been posting more recently - I‘ve
been feeling more "at home". The old buddies who rib and nudge each other -
John, Don and Ian the young uns, the Matts, Rob, and, of course, Private
Sean who are alternately incredibly respectful and marvellously
enthusiastic the gruff old-timers who keep us all in line gently, of
course! - Mac and Ian again! the comedians - Daves Hall and Newcombe
the knowledgeable Nova Scotians, Peter DeVries, and, of course, the
still-MIA Mike etc. etc. - I love you all figuratively speaking only, of
course!, and lots more who I haven‘t named, too.
I am especially taken by the way almost everyone on the list usually!
shows signs of having the qualities I have always associated with the
military without, mind you, knowing a whole lot about it -
self-discipline, forbearance, appreciation for clarity and order, loyalty,
mutual respect, sense of humour, and so on. This is what I expected to find
when I joined the list and is partly why I decided to join.
4 I also, as I have always said, joined the list because dating back to
the 50th anniversary of the end of WWII celebration stuff I have developed
a growing interest in Canada‘s military - what it has done in the past, how
it works, how it will handle the future, and why, to be honest, it keeps
getting such a bad rap in the press Hence my questions on this issue in
particular - and I figured peppering real live soldiers and vets and wives
and friends, etc. of CF people would be more fun and more interesting than
trying to make time to wade through a bunch of military history books, or
spending hours trying to find my way around the DND site. If my questions
sometimes seem too dumb am sure that happens a lot!, or too numerous that
too, lately, feel free to tell me. Or, if Mike B., or whomever, thinks my
reasons for participating aren‘t valid/good enough, tell me that, too.
But enough already !!! with these made-up computer trails, and trumped up
accusations, and kooky, paranoid innuendos. I don‘t think I have ever
treated anyone on this list badly or disrespectfully at least not on
purpose, and don‘t see why I should have to put up with poor treatment in
return.
Thus endeth the sermon. And thanks for reading!
- Joan
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RE: An off-topic - but important - post Mike B. - Forgive
me!
Joan, not sure what precipitated this but I have
always found your emails respectful, insightful, and humourous. You
have every right to your privacy and are most welcome here. Maybe there
is some quotwitch hunting‘ going on by some members here primarily
because of our 1st Lt. who seems to have disappeared clearly proving he
wasn‘t who he said he was. Anyone else agree?
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Joan O. Arc [mailto:joan_o_arc@hotmail.com
]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:20 AM
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Subject: An off-topic - but important - post Mike
B. - Forgive me!
As *my* final word on this quotwho are youquot
stuff that‘s been in the air
lately, let me make a few long-winded points If
you‘re a list member who‘s
sick of this stuff by now As I am! please delete
NOW to save yourself some
time.:
1 In case anyone thinks they should start in with
any of that quotexactly
where do you live/workquot stuff with me, let me
tell you right now you can
forget it. Having told you I‘m a reasonably young,
reasonably attractive
woman, there is no way on God‘s green earth I am
going to give out that
information to a bunch of strangers on-line. And if
you can‘t figure out why
that is, then I can‘t help you because clearly you
are either: a stupid, b
crazy, or c a professional pervert.
2 Since we‘re playing Spanish Inquisition If our
amateur detectives figure
I can‘t possibly be a girl because I quote Python
endlessly, I say, quotBuzz
off.quot My husband received a couple of Python
DVDs for Xmas, and it‘s been a
long, cold winter here, hence the ready supply of
quotes..., let me point
out that although many of the list members know each
other, I have no clue
who *any* of you are. Is John Gow a tree surgeon? Is
Don Schepens a
belly-dancer no offense, Don!? Is J-F a
podiatrist? Is Mac a volunteer
fireman? And where do you all live? Two blocks away
from me? In
Lloydminster? On the moon?
You see, one of the great drawbacks of this on-line
stuff is that it almost
always involves an element of trust and uncertainty
that can be faintly
off-putting for everyone involved. Knowing this, I
have quotplayed it straightquot
in dealing with the members of this list from the
beginning, but if there
are people here who can‘t handle my request that I
be allowed to conceal
some bits of personal info. - for whatever reason -
it seems to me that
maybe Gow is right - maybe you *should* go do your
own thing in private,
where quotoutsidersquot can‘t interfere or
intrude.
3 That said, I‘m particularly steamed about this
nonsense because I‘ve
actually grown incredibly fond of most of the
regular posters over the past
few months, which is why I myself have been posting
more recently - I‘ve
been feeling more quotat homequot. The old
buddies who rib and nudge each other -
John, Don and Ian the young uns, the Matts, Rob,
and, of course, Private
Sean who are alternately incredibly respectful and
marvellously
enthusiastic the gruff old-timers who keep us all
in line gently, of
course! - Mac and Ian again! the comedians -
Daves Hall and Newcombe
the knowledgeable Nova Scotians, Peter DeVries, and,
of course, the
still-MIA Mike etc. etc. - I love you all
figuratively speaking only, of
course!, and lots more who I haven‘t named,
too.
I am especially taken by the way almost everyone on
the list usually!
shows signs of having the qualities I have always
associated with the
military without, mind you, knowing a whole lot
about it -
self-discipline, forbearance, appreciation for
clarity and order, loyalty,
mutual respect, sense of humour, and so on. This is
what I expected to find
when I joined the list and is partly why I decided
to join.
4 I also, as I have always said, joined the list
because dating back to
the 50th anniversary of the end of WWII celebration
stuff I have developed
a growing interest in Canada‘s military - what it
has done in the past, how
it works, how it will handle the future, and why, to
be honest, it keeps
getting such a bad rap in the press Hence my
questions on this issue in
particular - and I figured peppering real live
soldiers and vets and wives
and friends, etc. of CF people would be more fun
and more interesting than
trying to make time to wade through a bunch of
military history books, or
spending hours trying to find my way around the DND
site. If my questions
sometimes seem too dumb am sure that happens a
lot!, or too numerous that
too, lately, feel free to tell me. Or, if Mike B.,
or whomever, thinks my
reasons for participating aren‘t valid/good enough,
tell me that, too.
But enough already !!! with these made-up computer
trails, and trumped up
accusations, and kooky, paranoid innuendos. I don‘t
think I have ever
treated anyone on this list badly or disrespectfully
at least not on
purpose, and don‘t see why I should have to put up
with poor treatment in
return.
Thus endeth the sermon. And thanks for
reading!
- Joan
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
Joan, not sure what precipitated this but I have always found your emails
respectful, insightful, and humourous. You have every right to your privacy
and are most welcome here. Maybe there is some "witch hunting‘ going on by
some members here primarily because of our 1st Lt. who seems to have
disappeared clearly proving he wasn‘t who he said he was. Anyone else agree?
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Joan O. Arc [mailto:joan_o_arc@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:20 AM
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Subject: An off-topic - but important - post Mike B. - Forgive me!
As *my* final word on this "who are you" stuff that‘s been in the air
lately, let me make a few long-winded points If you‘re a list member who‘s
sick of this stuff by now As I am! please delete NOW to save yourself some
time.:
1 In case anyone thinks they should start in with any of that "exactly
where do you live/work" stuff with me, let me tell you right now you can
forget it. Having told you I‘m a reasonably young, reasonably attractive
woman, there is no way on God‘s green earth I am going to give out that
information to a bunch of strangers on-line. And if you can‘t figure out why
that is, then I can‘t help you because clearly you are either: a stupid, b
crazy, or c a professional pervert.
2 Since we‘re playing Spanish Inquisition If our amateur detectives figure
I can‘t possibly be a girl because I quote Python endlessly, I say, "Buzz
off." My husband received a couple of Python DVDs for Xmas, and it‘s been a
long, cold winter here, hence the ready supply of quotes..., let me point
out that although many of the list members know each other, I have no clue
who *any* of you are. Is John Gow a tree surgeon? Is Don Schepens a
belly-dancer no offense, Don!? Is J-F a podiatrist? Is Mac a volunteer
fireman? And where do you all live? Two blocks away from me? In
Lloydminster? On the moon?
You see, one of the great drawbacks of this on-line stuff is that it almost
always involves an element of trust and uncertainty that can be faintly
off-putting for everyone involved. Knowing this, I have "played it straight"
in dealing with the members of this list from the beginning, but if there
are people here who can‘t handle my request that I be allowed to conceal
some bits of personal info. - for whatever reason - it seems to me that
maybe Gow is right - maybe you *should* go do your own thing in private,
where "outsiders" can‘t interfere or intrude.
3 That said, I‘m particularly steamed about this nonsense because I‘ve
actually grown incredibly fond of most of the regular posters over the past
few months, which is why I myself have been posting more recently - I‘ve
been feeling more "at home". The old buddies who rib and nudge each other -
John, Don and Ian the young uns, the Matts, Rob, and, of course, Private
Sean who are alternately incredibly respectful and marvellously
enthusiastic the gruff old-timers who keep us all in line gently, of
course! - Mac and Ian again! the comedians - Daves Hall and Newcombe
the knowledgeable Nova Scotians, Peter DeVries, and, of course, the
still-MIA Mike etc. etc. - I love you all figuratively speaking only, of
course!, and lots more who I haven‘t named, too.
I am especially taken by the way almost everyone on the list usually!
shows signs of having the qualities I have always associated with the
military without, mind you, knowing a whole lot about it -
self-discipline, forbearance, appreciation for clarity and order, loyalty,
mutual respect, sense of humour, and so on. This is what I expected to find
when I joined the list and is partly why I decided to join.
4 I also, as I have always said, joined the list because dating back to
the 50th anniversary of the end of WWII celebration stuff I have developed
a growing interest in Canada‘s military - what it has done in the past, how
it works, how it will handle the future, and why, to be honest, it keeps
getting such a bad rap in the press Hence my questions on this issue in
particular - and I figured peppering real live soldiers and vets and wives
and friends, etc. of CF people would be more fun and more interesting than
trying to make time to wade through a bunch of military history books, or
spending hours trying to find my way around the DND site. If my questions
sometimes seem too dumb am sure that happens a lot!, or too numerous that
too, lately, feel free to tell me. Or, if Mike B., or whomever, thinks my
reasons for participating aren‘t valid/good enough, tell me that, too.
But enough already !!! with these made-up computer trails, and trumped up
accusations, and kooky, paranoid innuendos. I don‘t think I have ever
treated anyone on this list badly or disrespectfully at least not on
purpose, and don‘t see why I should have to put up with poor treatment in
return.
Thus endeth the sermon. And thanks for reading!
- Joan
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RE: An off-topic - but important - post Mike B. - Forgive
me!
Joan, not sure what precipitated this but I have
always found your emails respectful, insightful, and humourous. You
have every right to your privacy and are most welcome here. Maybe there
is some quotwitch hunting‘ going on by some members here primarily
because of our 1st Lt. who seems to have disappeared clearly proving he
wasn‘t who he said he was. Anyone else agree?
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Joan O. Arc [mailto:joan_o_arc@hotmail.com
]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:20 AM
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Subject: An off-topic - but important - post Mike
B. - Forgive me!
As *my* final word on this quotwho are youquot
stuff that‘s been in the air
lately, let me make a few long-winded points If
you‘re a list member who‘s
sick of this stuff by now As I am! please delete
NOW to save yourself some
time.:
1 In case anyone thinks they should start in with
any of that quotexactly
where do you live/workquot stuff with me, let me
tell you right now you can
forget it. Having told you I‘m a reasonably young,
reasonably attractive
woman, there is no way on God‘s green earth I am
going to give out that
information to a bunch of strangers on-line. And if
you can‘t figure out why
that is, then I can‘t help you because clearly you
are either: a stupid, b
crazy, or c a professional pervert.
2 Since we‘re playing Spanish Inquisition If our
amateur detectives figure
I can‘t possibly be a girl because I quote Python
endlessly, I say, quotBuzz
off.quot My husband received a couple of Python
DVDs for Xmas, and it‘s been a
long, cold winter here, hence the ready supply of
quotes..., let me point
out that although many of the list members know each
other, I have no clue
who *any* of you are. Is John Gow a tree surgeon? Is
Don Schepens a
belly-dancer no offense, Don!? Is J-F a
podiatrist? Is Mac a volunteer
fireman? And where do you all live? Two blocks away
from me? In
Lloydminster? On the moon?
You see, one of the great drawbacks of this on-line
stuff is that it almost
always involves an element of trust and uncertainty
that can be faintly
off-putting for everyone involved. Knowing this, I
have quotplayed it straightquot
in dealing with the members of this list from the
beginning, but if there
are people here who can‘t handle my request that I
be allowed to conceal
some bits of personal info. - for whatever reason -
it seems to me that
maybe Gow is right - maybe you *should* go do your
own thing in private,
where quotoutsidersquot can‘t interfere or
intrude.
3 That said, I‘m particularly steamed about this
nonsense because I‘ve
actually grown incredibly fond of most of the
regular posters over the past
few months, which is why I myself have been posting
more recently - I‘ve
been feeling more quotat homequot. The old
buddies who rib and nudge each other -
John, Don and Ian the young uns, the Matts, Rob,
and, of course, Private
Sean who are alternately incredibly respectful and
marvellously
enthusiastic the gruff old-timers who keep us all
in line gently, of
course! - Mac and Ian again! the comedians -
Daves Hall and Newcombe
the knowledgeable Nova Scotians, Peter DeVries, and,
of course, the
still-MIA Mike etc. etc. - I love you all
figuratively speaking only, of
course!, and lots more who I haven‘t named,
too.
I am especially taken by the way almost everyone on
the list usually!
shows signs of having the qualities I have always
associated with the
military without, mind you, knowing a whole lot
about it -
self-discipline, forbearance, appreciation for
clarity and order, loyalty,
mutual respect, sense of humour, and so on. This is
what I expected to find
when I joined the list and is partly why I decided
to join.
4 I also, as I have always said, joined the list
because dating back to
the 50th anniversary of the end of WWII celebration
stuff I have developed
a growing interest in Canada‘s military - what it
has done in the past, how
it works, how it will handle the future, and why, to
be honest, it keeps
getting such a bad rap in the press Hence my
questions on this issue in
particular - and I figured peppering real live
soldiers and vets and wives
and friends, etc. of CF people would be more fun
and more interesting than
trying to make time to wade through a bunch of
military history books, or
spending hours trying to find my way around the DND
site. If my questions
sometimes seem too dumb am sure that happens a
lot!, or too numerous that
too, lately, feel free to tell me. Or, if Mike B.,
or whomever, thinks my
reasons for participating aren‘t valid/good enough,
tell me that, too.
But enough already !!! with these made-up computer
trails, and trumped up
accusations, and kooky, paranoid innuendos. I don‘t
think I have ever
treated anyone on this list badly or disrespectfully
at least not on
purpose, and don‘t see why I should have to put up
with poor treatment in
return.
Thus endeth the sermon. And thanks for
reading!
- Joan
_______________________________________________________________
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