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"Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation

The RCN has its old rank titles and executive curl back. What should be the next step for the CF ra

  • Nothing. The current rank system works, so leave it alone.

    Votes: 118 57.8%
  • Complete return to the pre-unification ranks of the 50s and early 60s.

    Votes: 41 20.1%
  • Complete return to post unification ranks of the 70s and early 80s.

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Officers only return to the pre-unification ranks of the 50s and early 60s.

    Votes: 9 4.4%
  • Copy the UK rank system - it is the prototype anyway.

    Votes: 17 8.3%
  • Copy the US rank system - they are the new colonial master.

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Create a whole new Canadian system.

    Votes: 8 3.9%
  • Lobby for standardized NATO rank insignia.

    Votes: 7 3.4%
  • Copy the French rank system - it is the other founding nation's turn

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • Total voters
    204

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Inky said:
Erm. Has anyone heard about this before?

....what happened to "we won't change the uniform, just the rank and title"  ???
 

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Wouldn't it be funny (sad?), if after all the new Army DEU tops being sent to Officers, we had to do it all over again with a new army DEU. After all if the airforce is doing it, then we can too?
 

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Though I like the old-style uniform better, I suspect that the "new uniform" will be current DEU with new insignia and accoutrements like retro dress belts (maybe the whole instant dictator kit) and sword belts.
 

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Or maybe the RCAF watched and learned from the RCN and CA's mistakes. Perhaps it's going full retro including silk scarves, rakish (squashed) forage cap, moustache with a devil may care demeanor much like Lord Flashheart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC3sURgYxng
 

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Happy Guy said:
Or maybe the RCAF watched and learned from the RCN and CA's mistakes. Perhaps it's going full retro including silk scarves, rakish (squashed) forage cap, moustache with a devil may care demeanor much like Lord Flashheart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC3sURgYxng

Only if the new uni comes with it's own PhD from Cambridge.
 

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New RCAF uniforms: Because we didn't waste enough money buying every Army officer a new tunic.
 

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PuckChaser said:
New RCAF uniforms: Because we didn't waste enough money buying every Army officer a new tunic ...
and defence budget dollars could not possibly be better spent on training, maintenance or readiness.

Eye In The Sky said:
It was SUPPOSED to just be change in rank color...and Pte to Aviator...
Those were the only details in the notes of the CAF dress committee, and word on the street this morning was only new rank insignia and new rank names.  The new uniform claim came later in the afternoon today.  The mandate of the dress committee is uniforms; it was necessary to describe the rank of aviator to explain that the insignia would be a propeller but same requirement did not exist to describe the other insignia changes, so I would not be surprised to see rank names changed beyond just that of Aviator.  However, a new uniform would be within the dress committee's mandate, so I would have expected to see mention if that were planned.  Maybe the new uniform is false rumour.  We should wait for the announcement.

I wonder what the sales pitch is going to be?  I hope it is better than the Army implying new similarities with France and USA, suggesting over 150 years of heritage from between 1880 and 1968, or pretending rank was not worn on the sleeve in the First World War.

This weekend also marks the start of Canadian Army general officers (and only the general officers) wearing the British rank insignia again.
 

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MEDIA ADVISORY

New uniform for the Royal Canadian Air Force

September 19, 2014OttawaDepartment of National Defence

Media are invited to a photo opportunity with the Honourable Rob Nicholson, Minister of National Defence and Lieutenant-General Yvan Blondin, Commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force, for the unveiling of the new Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) uniform at the Canada Aviation and Space Museum during the Battle of Britain parade.

When: September 21, 2014 at 10:30 a.m.
Where: Canada Aviation and Space Museum, 11 Aviation Parkway, Ottawa, ON K1K 2X5
What: Introduction of new uniform for the RCAF

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Notes to editor / news director:

Media are requested to arrive at the Canada Aviation and Space Museum 11 Aviation Parkway, Ottawa, Ontario at 10:00 a.m. to set-up their gear. Please contact Lieutenant-Colonel David Devenney at (613) 994-3422 or David.Devenney@forces.gc.ca to confirm your attendance at this event, no later than 4:00 p.m. September 19, 2014.

Contact information:

Lieutenant-Colonel David Devenney
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Phone: (613) 994-3422
David.Devenney@forces.gc.ca

Media Relations
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Phone: (613) 996-2353
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Absolute insanity, whatever it looks like.

And no shortage of better things to spend scarce money on.
 

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I'm going to bet NCMs get 'pearl grey' rank and insignia...officers go to WWII style tunic with belt and RAF style rank.

Takers?
 

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As I recall, and it's a long time ago, RAF officers had a belt on their tunics, but the RCAF did not. RAF buttons were shiny, but RCAF officers' buttons were not. We'll see.
 

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Loachman said:
Absolute insanity, whatever it looks like.

And no shortage of better things to spend scarce money on.
Makes me shake my head even more given our other discussion regarding helos
 

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Old Sweat said:
As I recall, and it's a long time ago, RAF officers had a belt on their tunics, but the RCAF did not. RAF buttons were shiny, but RCAF officers' buttons were not. We'll see.

Dad got married in his RCAF dress uniform (LAC at the time) in '61 and I'm 99% sure in the pictures, he had a belt on the tunic.
 

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Looks like they had belts, at one time, anyway ...

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