Sexual Misconduct Allegations in The CAF

[Eaglelord17]

There is also many who I am sure also didn't join in either.

 

[kev994]

Yeah, over on Reddit there’s an astounding number of arguments that men weren’t eligible, apparently they listened to gossip instead of reading the thousands of posters and emails plastered everywhere.

 

[dimsum]

Yeah, over on Reddit there’s an astounding number of arguments that men weren’t eligible, apparently they listened to gossip instead of reading the thousands of posters and emails plastered everywhere.

While there are gems of good info in that sub sometimes, I pretty much only go there for SCS and to catch up on the latest snark.

 

[brihard]

Rory Fowler's blog of the 25th or 26th of November respecting the circumstances of the investigation and removal of Admiral MacDonald.

Maybe I’m missing something here- but Fowler cites as evidence the fact that no charges were laid under the CSD. Hasn’t it been determined that there’s no viable way to proceed under the CSD for someone as senior as the Chief of the Defence Staff?

Regarding no laying of criminal charges, am I mistaken in recalling that the alleged event took place aboard a deployed HMCS, and that S.130 NDA would be the only way to proceed? But which then fails for the reason mentioned above?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Well ... knock me down with a feather. That should solve all the CAF's problems

Hopefully there will be more (substance) to follow.

Defence minister and Canada's top soldier to apologize to sexual misconduct victims​

Dec. 13 apology will be streamed on Canadian Armed Forces Facebook page​

Defence Minister Anita Anand will formally apologize to military survivors of sexual misconduct Dec. 13. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)
Canada's defence minister will join the country's top soldier in delivering a formal apology to survivors of sexual misconduct in the armed forces on December 13.

"All Defence Team members should be treated fairly in a workplace that is safe and free of any kind of harassment and discrimination," says a joint statement from the federal government.

"We know there is much more work to do to create lasting and positive culture change, and we will continue to listen to and learn from those affected to ensure we are taking the necessary action to make that change."

Defence Minister Anita Anand will apologize on behalf of the Government of Canada. Her deputy, Jody Thomas, will apologize on behalf of the Department of National Defence. Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Wayne Eyre will apologize on behalf of the armed forces.

The apology will take place at 1 p.m. and will be streamed live on the Canadian Armed Forces Facebook page. Afterwards, the video of the apology will be posted to the Forces Twitter and YouTube accounts and the Sexual Misconduct Apology web page.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sexual-misconduct-apology-livestream-1.6267121

 

[Eye In The Sky]

I think public acknowledgment is important to the government, the CAF and victims. Maybe it can be a pivotal point collectively?

 

[PPCLI Guy]

So 58% of 19000 claims is ~11,020 claims from women. And if 15.7% of 60,000 reg force is women, that’s only 9,420. Understanding that my sample size is off, there’s more people than just reg force in the pool, it seems like most of them have made a claim. That’s kinda hidden in the story about the number of claims that are from men.

Eligibility is for all serving or former serving members who experienced Sexual Misconduct prior to Nov 2019so sample size is dramatically bigger than the current population of CAF....

“CAF Class Members” have been defined as follows:

All current or former CAF members who experienced Sexual Misconduct up to and including November 25, 2019, who have not opted out of the Heyder or Beattie Class Actions.

“DND/SNPF Class Members” have been defined as follows:

All current and former employees of DND and of the Staff of the Non-Public Funds, Canadian Forces, who experienced Sexual Misconduct up to and including November 25, 2019, who have not Opted Out of the Heyder or Beattie Class Actions.

“Sexual Misconduct” means the following, in Connection with Military Service for the CAF Class and in Connection with Employment for the DND/SNPF Class:

1. Sexual harassment;
2. Sexual assault; and/or
3. Discrimination on the grounds of sex, gender, gender identity or sexual orientation.

“Eligible Class Member” is defined as a Class Member who was alive as of March 15, 2019, and whose application for an Individual Payment is approved in accordance with the provisions of the Final Settlement Agreement.

 

[Kilted]

Has there not been an official apology already?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Has there not been an official apology already?

Apparently not.

Maybe that's a good example of one of the cultural issues in the CAF.

 

[Booter]

Sexual misconduct victims to receive apology from Canadian Armed Forces

The commander of the Canadian Armed Forces is preparing to formally apologize to victims of sexual misconduct as the military seeks to turn the page on its record of failing to prevent inappropriate and criminal behaviour.

www.nationalobserver.com

It looks like it’s been in the works a while. But the timing wasn’t right for maximum political points

 

[The Bread Guy]

The info-machine's version of the apology announcement ...

The Minister of National Defence, the Honourable Anita Anand, the Chief of the Defence Staff, General Wayne Eyre, and the Deputy Minister, Jody Thomas, issued the following statement:

“There must be absolutely no place in our organization for sexual assault, sexual harassment or discrimination based on sex, gender, gender identity or sexual orientation. We know that our collective failure to build an inclusive workplace culture free from these unacceptable behaviours has hurt our people.

“As part of our efforts to restore relationships with those harmed, we will offer a public apology to all current and former members of the Defence Team who have been affected by sexual assault and sexual misconduct, including harassment, and discrimination.”

The Honourable Anita Anand, Minister of National Defence, will offer an apology on behalf of the Government of Canada. General Wayne Eyre, Chief of the Defence Staff, will offer an apology on behalf of the Canadian Armed Forces. Jody Thomas, Deputy Minister of National Defence, will offer an apology on behalf of the Department of National Defence.

The apology will take place virtually at 1 p.m. EST on December 13 and will be livestreamed on the Canadian Armed Forces Facebook page. Viewers can watch the video stream without an account or signing in to Facebook. A link to the video will be posted shortly before the event on the CAF and DND Facebook and Twitter pages, and will also be available on the DND/CAF Sexual Misconduct Apology web page. The event will also be recorded and available afterwards on YouTube for those who are unable to watch it live or prefer to view it at a later time.

Everyone will process the apology in their own way. The apology may evoke strong emotional responses and/or cause trauma to resurface – either in the moment or later on. Should you or someone you know require support, a list of available support services can be found here.

If you, or someone you know has experienced an incident of sexual misconduct, there is help available. Here are the services available to Defence Team members.

“All Defence Team members should be treated fairly in a workplace that is safe and free of any kind of harassment and discrimination. We know there is much more work to do to create lasting and positive culture change, and we will continue to listen to and learn from those affected to ensure we are taking the necessary action to make that change.”

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[Bruce Monkhouse]

There is an article out there today, that can't be mentioned here, about one of army.ca's former members being exonerated for his attempt to stop sexual misconduct at RMC.

Well done Mark......a pox on their houses.

 

[Remius]

There is an article out there today, that can't be mentioned here, about one of army.ca's former members being exonerated for his attempt to stop sexual misconduct at RMC.

Well done Mark......a pox on their houses.

Saw it. Wow, so these psychopaths get to continue their careers so that in 30 years we’ll be dealing with some effed up CDS who will be named as one of these participants and we’ll be no further ahead.

No wonder people have lost faith.

 

[Halifax Tar]

There is an article out there today, that can't be mentioned here, about one of army.ca's former members being exonerated for his attempt to stop sexual misconduct at RMC.

Well done Mark......a pox on their houses.

That is a very damning article.

 

[Good2Golf]

That is a very damning article.

It should be. That a BGen was upset at the use of the F-word while giving tomorrow’s leaders a pass on sexual harassment of under-aged girls pretty much tells you the characteristics of that individual and the system that supports him.

 

[dapaterson]

That the GOFOs in Ottawa intervened for their snowflakes also says a lot...

 

[daftandbarmy]

That the GOFOs in Ottawa intervened for their snowflakes also says a lot...

Rings be like...

 

[Good2Golf]

That the GOFOs in Ottawa intervened for their snowflakes also says a lot...

Yeah, that was my use of “system” above, but yes, there is a problem, and they (GOFOs who continue to support those of such ilk as BGen Friday) remain a large part of the problem.

 

[OldSolduer]

It should be. That a BGen was upset at the use of the F-word while giving tomorrow’s leaders a pass on sexual harassment of under-aged girls pretty much tells you the characteristics of that individual and the system that supports him.

Under aged girls are children. These people should have known better

 

[OldSolduer]

That is a very damning article.

Can you somehow link me to it?