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Posted by m.oleary@ns.sympatico.ca Mike Oleary on Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:10:45 -0500
"The custom which necessitated every officer drinking His Majesty the
King‘s health in port is no longer enforced as long as an officer‘s
glass is filled, to enable him to join in the toast, it is immaterial
whether it contains port, sherry or water." - Customs of the Service
Advice to those newly commissioned by A.H.S., 1939
And I believe the connection between toasts with water and King George V
was based on the Royal Family having a "dry" household throughout the
war. IIRC
Mike
The Regimental Rogue
http://regimentalrigue.tripod.com
2001 Canadian Military History Calendar
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Edwards
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Men‘s‘ Mess Dinner
I always believed that a toast, particularly the Loyal toast, had to
be drunk with a spirit port or sometimes madeira is acceptable but
recently an old comrade has tried to convince me that a toast may be
drunk with water, this permission having been given by King George V.
All I know is that when the Loyal toast is given, the member should be
given the option of wine or water, never both, in case the respondent to
the toast is a Jacobite follower of Bonnie Prince Charlie as are/were
many Highlanders who would secretly toast BP Chas by passing their wine
glass over top of the water glass to toast BP Charlie "over the water -
in exile in France".
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"The custom which necessitated every
officer
drinking His Majesty the King‘s health in port is no longer enforced as
long as
an officer‘s glass is filled, to enable him to join in the toast, it is
immaterial whether it contains port, sherry or water." - Customs of the
Service
Advice to those newly commissioned by A.H.S.,
1939
And I believe the connection between
toasts with
water and King George V was based on the Royal Family having a "dry"
household
throughout the war. IIRC
Mike
The Regimental Rogue
http://regimentalrigue.tripod.
com
2001 Canadian Military History
Calendar
----- Original Message -----
From:
Ian
Edwards
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000
9:39
PM
Subject: Re: Men‘s‘ Mess
Dinner
I always believed that a toast,
particularly the
Loyal toast, had to be drunk with a spirit port or sometimes madeira
is
acceptable but recently an old comrade has tried to convince me that
a toast
may be drunk with water, this permission having been given by King
George V.
All I know is that when the Loyal toast is given, the member should be
given
the option of wine or water, never both, in case the respondent to the
toast
is a Jacobite follower of Bonnie Prince Charlie as are/were many
Highlanders
who would secretly toast BP Chas by passing their wine glass over top
of the
water glass to toast BP Charlie "over the water - in exile in
France".
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"The custom which necessitated every officer drinking His Majesty the
King‘s health in port is no longer enforced as long as an officer‘s
glass is filled, to enable him to join in the toast, it is immaterial
whether it contains port, sherry or water." - Customs of the Service
Advice to those newly commissioned by A.H.S., 1939
And I believe the connection between toasts with water and King George V
was based on the Royal Family having a "dry" household throughout the
war. IIRC
Mike
The Regimental Rogue
http://regimentalrigue.tripod.com
2001 Canadian Military History Calendar
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Edwards
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Men‘s‘ Mess Dinner
I always believed that a toast, particularly the Loyal toast, had to
be drunk with a spirit port or sometimes madeira is acceptable but
recently an old comrade has tried to convince me that a toast may be
drunk with water, this permission having been given by King George V.
All I know is that when the Loyal toast is given, the member should be
given the option of wine or water, never both, in case the respondent to
the toast is a Jacobite follower of Bonnie Prince Charlie as are/were
many Highlanders who would secretly toast BP Chas by passing their wine
glass over top of the water glass to toast BP Charlie "over the water -
in exile in France".
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"The custom which necessitated every
officer
drinking His Majesty the King‘s health in port is no longer enforced as
long as
an officer‘s glass is filled, to enable him to join in the toast, it is
immaterial whether it contains port, sherry or water." - Customs of the
Service
Advice to those newly commissioned by A.H.S.,
1939
And I believe the connection between
toasts with
water and King George V was based on the Royal Family having a "dry"
household
throughout the war. IIRC
Mike
The Regimental Rogue
http://regimentalrigue.tripod.
com
2001 Canadian Military History
Calendar
----- Original Message -----
From:
Ian
Edwards
To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000
9:39
PM
Subject: Re: Men‘s‘ Mess
Dinner
I always believed that a toast,
particularly the
Loyal toast, had to be drunk with a spirit port or sometimes madeira
is
acceptable but recently an old comrade has tried to convince me that
a toast
may be drunk with water, this permission having been given by King
George V.
All I know is that when the Loyal toast is given, the member should be
given
the option of wine or water, never both, in case the respondent to the
toast
is a Jacobite follower of Bonnie Prince Charlie as are/were many
Highlanders
who would secretly toast BP Chas by passing their wine glass over top
of the
water glass to toast BP Charlie "over the water - in exile in
France".
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