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The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

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Will we be flying both airframe once we start to get the deliveries? And once the new airframe starts to arrive, will we still be teaching new pilots to fly the f-18, or all the new brass will be assigned to the new airframe ? Thanks
 

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If we offer them to improve their proposals, we can expect even more delays.
…Boeing will argue they should be allowed to improve their proposal as well, to be compliant…
 

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I don't honestly think Boeing had a major interest in the RCAF Fighter business, at least not priotirizing over a potential for P-8's and more Hook's etc. Also Bell and Boeing are JV'd on Tilt Rotor - and that potential is WAY more lucrative than 88 Super Hornets...

The RCAF Fighter business isn't very lucrative as the numbers are low - and while the RCAF will keep the for years and years with spare parts etc, unlike other items RCAF Fighter generally doesn't generate any headlines, or new business after the sale.
 

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Yup. Boeing stopped making real money on CF-18s when Hornet OWSS went to L3 MAS…
 

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So Sopwith Camel seems to be a good pick at this point...

Honestly I didn't know all of that history on the CF-5, one really had to wonder why in 1958 when the USN decided on the Phantom II, that instead of getting the Voodoo and Starfighter in 1961 why the RCAF had not gone down that route - until wanting to get it later, and having wasted their money needed to get the POS.

Makes me think that critical thinking and planning in the CAF has been dead for years...
 

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So Sopwith Camel seems to be a good pick at this point...

Honestly I didn't know all of that history on the CF-5, one really had to wonder why in 1958 when the USN decided on the Phantom II, that instead of getting the Voodoo and Starfighter in 1961 why the RCAF had not gone down that route - until wanting to get it later, and having wasted their money needed to get the POS.

Makes me think that critical thinking and planning in the CAF has been dead for years...
Because they could build it in Quebec and create jobs, jobs, jobs.

My Father-in-law's first real job was at a factory building the Iltis. Government's don't create money, they circulate it.
 

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So Sopwith Camel seems to be a good pick at this point...

Honestly I didn't know all of that history on the CF-5, one really had to wonder why in 1958 when the USN decided on the Phantom II, that instead of getting the Voodoo and Starfighter in 1961 why the RCAF had not gone down that route - until wanting to get it later, and having wasted their money needed to get the POS.

Makes me think that critical thinking and planning in the CAF has been dead for years...

You want Sopwiths? Here's the man for you.

 

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As for the Starfighter? It like the CF-5 was built in Quebec by Canadair. The Voodoo was a McDonnell development expressly for Canada. Both came out of the decision to ditch the Arrow and take on the Bomarc GBAD nuclear missile in 1958.
 

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So Sopwith Camel seems to be a good pick at this point...

Honestly I didn't know all of that history on the CF-5, one really had to wonder why in 1958 when the USN decided on the Phantom II, that instead of getting the Voodoo and Starfighter in 1961 why the RCAF had not gone down that route - until wanting to get it later, and having wasted their money needed to get the POS.

Makes me think that critical thinking and planning in the CAF has been dead for years...
Yep the Sopwith Camel - one where the airframe is built out of low observable materials. Like wood, and cloth. Does anyone know anything about carbon fiber?
I said this years ago.
Maybe up grade the MG to a more current one and use a 5.7 L Hemi engine.....

OK how about a 21xst century version of the Mosquito?
 

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Yep the Sopwith Camel - one where the airframe is built out of low observable materials. Like wood, and cloth. Does anyone know anything about carbon fiber?
I said this years ago.
Maybe up grade the MG to a more current one and use a 5.7 L Hemi engine.....

OK how about a 21xst century version of the Mosquito?

This?

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Or this?

 

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