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Ukraine’s home-made anti-tank missiles.

 

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Once more into the breech...

'There is a real risk for new armed conflict in Europe' Stoltenberg says​


The threat of a new war in Europe is very real, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said today following talks with Russia at the military alliance's headquarters in Brussels.

Stoltenberg's warning was delivered as the Trudeau government faces rising political pressure from the vocal Ukrainian diaspora community in Canada to do more to help deter an invasion by Russia troops.

The meeting of the NATO-Russia Council ended without a firm commitment to more dialogue over Moscow's demands. Russia is insisting that Ukraine be denied NATO membership and that the deployment of alliance troops and equipment in eastern Europe be rolled back to 1997 levels.

Those demands have been rejected entirely by the alliance. Wednesday's four hour meeting between NATO ambassadors and a Russian delegation was a "defining moment for European security," Stoltenberg said.

 

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Things heating up a it.

This is Russian traditional playbook, make ot seem like it's the other sides fault. It seems like a major initiative to distract from domestic issues that have been dragging putins popularity
 

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This is Russian traditional playbook, make ot seem like it's the other sides fault. It seems like a major initiative to distract from domestic issues that have been dragging putins popularity
Agree, but there has to be an ‘out’ for them, something that shows that they’ve came away with a win. Not sure what that will be at the moment.
 

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Agree, but there has to be an ‘out’ for them, something that shows that they’ve came away with a win. Not sure what that will be at the moment.
Putin's big miscalculation.

Is Russian President Vladimir Putin planning to
invade Ukraine, potentially launching a new war in
Europe? The answer remains elusive after a week
of intensive diplomacy, with consecutive meetings
between Russian officials and US, NATO and the
Organization for Security and Cooperation in
Europe envoys...
 

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To be fair, though ....
The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials.

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While the covert program, run by paramilitaries working for the CIA’s Ground Branch — now officially known as Ground Department — was established by the Obama administration after Russia’s invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014, and expanded under the Trump administration, the Biden administration has further augmented it, said a former senior intelligence official in touch with colleagues in government ...
Meanwhile, here at home ...
Russia may face further Western sanctions as a consequence of its military buildup on the Ukrainian border, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Wednesday.

And Trudeau appeared to confirm that Canada will renew its modest commitment of 200 Canadian Forces personnel to a military training mission in Ukraine, amid rising tensions between the West and Russia.

The Ukrainian government has been waiting on Canada to publicly renew the commitment, set to expire at the end of March, as part of a show of NATO solidarity toward Russia at a time of rising tensions ...
We'll see ...
 
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Here's a bit of interesting news. I've not read anything previously saying that any of our 200+/- troops were 'outside the wire' from their main base outside of Lvov. That turns out to not be the case.

"The Canadian troops under Gilbert's command are currently spread across 13 different locations in Ukraine. However, the mission commander said all of them are on the western side of the Dnieper River, which cuts the country almost in half.

"We are operating on military bases, mostly in the centre and west of the country," Gilbert said. "We have nothing east of the Dnieper River."

"While that means Canadian soldiers won't be on the front lines if Russian forces do start to pour across the border into Ukraine, it probably wouldn't take long for them to find themselves face to face with invading Russian troops and tanks."


Does anyone know if we have any of our transport vehicles assigned to this mission? If we've got 13 different locations spread across the country where we've go troops I can only imagine the logistics of getting these locations during a shooting war when everything is fluid.
Also interesting to read that, at least accordingly to what's being said in the article, none of these troops have been recalled from said 13 locations.

 
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