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Excellent article from the LA Times on the psychology of war.

The servicemen say atrocities aren’t directly ordered from above; instead, they result from a Russian military culture that glorifies ardor in battle, portrays the enemy as inhuman and has no effective system of accountability.

“Your army is based on professionalism,” said a 27-year-old paratrooper who served alongside U.S. troops as a peacekeeper in Bosnia-Herzegovina. “Our army is based on fervor.”


 

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Forbes article about Ukraine standing up a new Brigade in Krivyi Rih from scratch with scratch soldiers.

Today's date is May 18.
The video was released circa May 12. 6 Days ago.
The Netherlands announced the donation of the M113/YPR765s on 19 Apr, 23 Days prior to the video being made.


The Territorials got a new General on May 16. Two days ago.


Watch The Ukrainian Army Form A New Brigade With Donated Tanks
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A Ukrainian soldier and ex-Dutch YPR-765 APCs.
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The Ukrainian army appears to be forming a new mechanized infantry unit. The unit’s equipment, training and location—all evident in an official promotional video—are worth noting.


The unit is training on mostly donated equipment: ex-Polish T-72M1 tanks, ex-Dutch YPR-765 armored personnel carriers and ex-British and ex-Turkish infantry equipment.

It’s rehearsing combined-arms operations mixing tanks, APCs and artillery. And it’s doing it in Kryvyi Rih, just north of Russian-occupied Kherson in southern Ukraine.

Kherson with its vital seaport was one of the first Ukrainian cities Russian forces seized after rolling north from occupied Crimea on Feb. 24. Liberating Kherson is a top priority in Kyiv.

While Ukrainian forces are counterattacking along the southern front, they’re not yet driving straight for Kherson. A lack of fresh heavy forces could explain why. One of the only undamaged Ukrainian formations in the southern sector, the reserve 5th Tank Brigade, is part of the defensive garrison in Odesa, Ukraine’s most important seaport, 75 miles west of Kherson.

If the 5th Tank isn’t going to ride east to jumpstart a Kherson counteroffensive, Ukrainian commanders in the sector are going to have to draw heavy forces from somewhere else. The Kryvyi Rih training video is a hint that those forces already are forming.

The video, which circulated on social media starting around May 12, depicts Colonel-General Oleksandr Syrsky, head of the Kyiv’s ground forces, observing Ukrainian army soldiers—many of them young and obviously inexperienced—practicing small-unit tactics with a mix of donated and Ukrainian vehicles.

Troopers wearing Turkish-style body armor and British-style helmets disembark from YPR-765s, which are Dutch variants of the classic American M-113 APC. Tank crews fire the 125-millimeter main guns of their uprated T-72M1s. Poland has pledged more than 200 of these T-72s to Ukraine as part of a larger arms package.

Artillery gunners maneuver and fire their 2S1 self-propelled 122-millimeter howitzers and 2A36 towed 152-millimeter howitzers. These at least aren’t unusual. Both types are standard across the Ukrainian armed forces.

It’s an eclectic mix of weaponry, overall—and it speaks to the wide range of foreign support for Ukraine’s armed forces, as well as those forces’ growing need for weaponry as tens of thousands of reservists complete their training and form new units.

A brigade riding in a mix of Polish, Dutch and Ukrainian vehicles is likely to run into logistical problems as maintainers struggle to source a frankly bizarre mix of spare parts.

But coherent training is more important than a coherent table of organization and equipment is, as the Russian army repeatedly has demonstrated in its own faltering Ukraine campaign.

Russian units use Russian weapons, across the board. But that materiel simplicity hasn’t helped the Russians to cross a river while under fire, safeguard their command posts or sustain a local attack over a distance of more than a few miles.

It’s unclear which unit the training video depicts. The videographers obviously took pains not to show the trainees’ unit patches. It’s possible it’s a new reserve brigade. It’s equally possible the brigade is preparing to roll south in order to join an older reserve unit, the 60th Infantry Brigade, which has been fighting the Russians around Kherson since early in the current war.

The timing of that deployment is critical. The arrival of a fresh mechanized brigade with a hundred tanks plus APCs, artillery and infantry could be the trigger for a more determined Ukrainian counteroffensive.

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Forbes article about Ukraine standing up a new Brigade in Krivyi Rih from scratch with scratch soldiers.

Today's date is May 18.
The video was released circa May 12. 6 Days ago.
The Netherlands announced the donation of the M113/YPR765s on 19 Apr, 23 Days prior to the video being made.


The Territorials got a new General on May 16. Two days ago.




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I anticipated Ukraine forming new brigades there last week, can't wait to see this June counter attack they are planning.
 

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Word from RUS regional media that about 90 Azovstal prisoners have been taken to Russia (most are reportedly in occupied Ukraine facilities) (Google translation attached - archive link of original article in Russian). If the sources are to be believed, it looks like "prisoners of war who are convicted of participating in the Azov regiment recognized by Russia as extremist and banned, will be tried in the (RUS) Southern District Military Court."
Some of the Ukrainian prisoners of war who surrendered to the Russian army after 82 days of defense of the Mariupol Azovstal plant were taken to the city of Taganrog, a source in the power structures of the Rostov region told a 161.RU correspondent.

- 89 people were brought to us, almost all of them are combatants (which means they are covered by the Geneva Convention. - Approx. ed. ). <...> From Taganrog they will be distributed further. In the region, too, our part will remain. They are now an important object [for exchange], — said the source.


According to Reuters with reference to the Ukrainian authorities, on May 16 alone, more than 250 Azovstal defenders surrendered to the Russian military. According to correspondents of the British edition, 53 wounded Ukrainians were taken to a hospital in the Russian-controlled city of Novoazovsk, others were taken to the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic. The Russian Ministry of Defense reported that by the evening of May 17, the number of those who had surrendered had reached 954 people.

The source of 161.RU claims that some Ukrainians brought to Taganrog were found with chevrons of the SS divisions “Galicia” and “Totenkopf”.

The head of the Rostov Public Monitoring Commission, Igor Omelchenko, in a commentary to 161.RU, suggested that the Ukrainian prisoners were placed in the Taganrog SIZO-2 , which, according to him, was released from those arrested in the spring. He called the information that the Ukrainians could be taken to the Rostov pre-trial detention center on Maxim Gorky Street unlikely.

According to an editorial source in law enforcement agencies, prisoners of war who are convicted of participating in the Azov regiment recognized by Russia as extremist and banned, will be tried in the Southern District Military Court.
 

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Today the first trial will be held in the city of Rostov-on-Don over the soldiers of the Aidar battalion who surrendered. Denis Maruga, who took part in the explosion of the bridge in 2019, as a result of which people were killed, will appear before the court. Muryga personally confessed to this during the interrogation. In total, 1,700 soldiers of the Ukrainian army have already surrendered from the Azovstal plant.



@Soldier35 many people are surprised that Russian soldiers just don’t follow their doctrine and use ‘беспредел’ (lawlessness) to kill this man.

Ignoring the Laws of Armed Conflict seems to have worked to Russia’s favour in Chechnya, Georgia and we have seen them try to intimidate Ukrainians more recently in cities such as Буча, by behaving like violent animals.
 

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. . . . Russian kamikaze drones "KUB-UAV" were used for the strike. After the drone strike, the artillery battery of Ukraine went into the forest, after which they were hit by Russian artillery. The video is cropped due to poor quality

This descriptive could apply generally to the full range of Russian military operations.
 
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