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On Sunday, 2 October, the Initial, multi-prong assault quickly collapsed positions of the 205th Cossack in Myroliubivka and Ljubymivka, causing its survivors to flee (reportedly: all the way to Beryslav, some 80km further south).

Which probably explains reports of Ukrainians in Beryslav --- "They're right behind us!!!"

This is getting so far that there are times and sectors of the frontline where Ukrainians — who, arguably, are better equipped with UAVs — are spending 30, 40, 50% of the flight time of their UAVs to run reconnaissance of their own positions, just in order to make sure these couldn’t be found by the Russian UAVs.

Very interesting.

Ukrainians are protecting their ‘most precious’ self-propelled artillery pieces 1-for-1 by such rare stuff like German-made Gepard Flakpanzer: whenever the artillery piece in question goes into fire action, the Flakpanzer is responsible to protect it — from enemy UAVs, and thus from enemy artillery.

@FJAG for commentary.

Second principal target of artillery are fortifications

Fortifications, kill zones, mortars, ATGMs, mines, hidden tanks, UAVs - the strength of the defence. So why are Ukrainian lines holding but Russian lines are collapsing? Morale.

Ukrainian infantry is frequently operating ‘miles away’ from its supporting vehicles. I.e. ZSU infantry is much harder to find.

A strong back and a good pair of knees? Helicopters and light vehicles? Debussing where the Russians aren't?

Neat piece @Colin Parkinson
 

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Which probably explains reports of Ukrainians in Beryslav --- "They're right behind us!!!"

Fortifications, kill zones, mortars, ATGMs, mines, hidden tanks, UAVs - the strength of the defence. So why are Ukrainian lines holding but Russian lines are collapsing? Morale.

A strong back and a good pair of knees? Helicopters and light vehicles? Debussing where the Russians aren't?
The Ukrainian infantry has been operating a lot like the independent Ranger companies of old. They're moving fast, probing and conducting recce, while also seizing the initiative where it is vice waiting to reinforce for a larger offensive. The fact that most of the Recce element for the UA is UAV based, frees up a lot of folks to go start fires and wear down morale, while also having eyes on for artillery and rockets to wipe out the heavier toys Russia still has to play with.

It's been fascinating to watch academically, but I cannot imagine the horror both sides have faced the past 8 and a half months.
 

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The Ukrainian infantry has been operating a lot like the independent Ranger companies of old. They're moving fast, probing and conducting recce, while also seizing the initiative where it is vice waiting to reinforce for a larger offensive. The fact that most of the Recce element for the UA is UAV based, frees up a lot of folks to go start fires and wear down morale, while also having eyes on for artillery and rockets to wipe out the heavier toys Russia still has to play with.

It's been fascinating to watch academically, but I cannot imagine the horror both sides have faced the past 8 and a half months.
It's also horrifying and sobering to think some of those being trained by us in the UK right now will not see the end of the war
 

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It's also horrifying and sobering to think some of those being trained by us in the UK right now will not see the end of the war
We do the best we can to make them the best we can.

I'm certain the training provided during the 8 years of Op UNIFER and JTFC-U prevented the complete collapse of the UA on 24 Feb.
 

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The Ukrainian infantry has been operating a lot like the independent Ranger companies of old. They're moving fast, probing and conducting recce, while also seizing the initiative where it is vice waiting to reinforce for a larger offensive. The fact that most of the Recce element for the UA is UAV based, frees up a lot of folks to go start fires and wear down morale, while also having eyes on for artillery and rockets to wipe out the heavier toys Russia still has to play with.

It's been fascinating to watch academically, but I cannot imagine the horror both sides have faced the past 8 and a half months.

Related, I think, is this set of videos -

HMMWVs rocking and rolling cross country

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xwowrw
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xwi97f
HMMWV survives direct hit by tank (end of video)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xut1aw
Not bad for a 5 tonne vehicle
 

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Any military that passes up the chance to bring UA vets at the 06, 03, E8 and E5 levels into their staff, command and leadership schools because they are not 'American' or 'Canadian' or 'German' (pick your country of choice) or the content makes their existing TRADOC look foolish or inadequate will be negligent. Line level peeps can see and will hear from returnees how the real world works and will lose faith in their COC.

Look at how the various SF disciplines changed how they operated from the pre GW2 era to now... Based on real world lessons learned.
 

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Related, I think, is this set of videos -

HMMWVs rocking and rolling cross country

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xwowrw
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xwi97f
HMMWV survives direct hit by tank (end of video)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xut1aw
Not bad for a 5 tonne vehicle
This is where the Humvee shines, a wide lightly armoured vehicle with good cross country ability and the wide track makes it an excellent heavy weapons vehicle.
 

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"We smashed up all their artillery units before launching the offensive,

Ukrainians are claiming the Russians no longer have arty superiority.


Mind you I think it would have to be a brave gunner who loaded some of that Russian surplus ammunition.
 

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Why is the foxhole all alone? Is it an observation post? In the end of the video a Ukrainian soldier is standing alone and totally exposed while firing into the foxhole, again, why is this Russian foxhole an orphan?
We don’t know that it is. Narrow field of view. We don’t know what’s beside and behind that Ukrainian soldier.

Solid grenade placement. I expected the followup sweep of the trench, but clearly the video’s been chopped a bit.
 

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Dismounts riding on a tank that gets hit with an ATGM yet prompt reaction to the ambush. I bet their ears are f'd up though.

 
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