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US, NATO Outta Afghanistan 2021

Remius

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That's for our personal, if we left behind 100 Gurkhas to fend for them selves, that's a national disgrace
Further on her tweet she did mention that the govt was working with the contractor to get them out but that it wouldn’t be on any of the refugee flights
 

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Further on her tweet she did mention that the govt was working with the contractor to get them out but that it wouldn’t be on any of the refugee flights
Yeah, and I put zero stock in that whatsoever. Unless the contractor has access to military flight (not bloody likely), it’s done. That information would have been prior to the closure of the airport to all non-military flights.
 

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I've read multiple reports that the Taliban March in to the cities has been relatively bloodless. They appear to have paid off many of the tribes for support and many Government officials simply switched sides. Apparently Government workers were back to work the very next day in Mazar-e-Sharif and the Taliban told them not to be alarmed and to carry on as if it were business as usual.

I maintain that the US Administration has known for awhile the Taliban were going to be back in power and none of this is a surprise. There hasn't been an American soldier killed in Afghanistan in almost a year and a half and that's no coincidence. They made a deal with them, they just will never admit it publicly.
 

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Initial reports from IND media indicate this guy (reportedly a former guest at Club Gitmo) is going to be the next leader of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. No need to worry, though, according to the attached statement from the Taliban out today (highlights mine) ....
... The Mujahideen should pay utmost attention to the treasury, public facilities, government offices, equipment related to government offices, parks, roads, bridges. Al these are the trust and property of the nation; no personal tampering and negligence should be done with them, rather it should be strictly guarded.

All those who have previously worked and helped the invaders, or are now standing in the ranks of the corrupt Administration of Kabul, the Islamic Emirate has opened its door for them and have announced for them amnesty. We once again invite them all to come and to serve the nation and the country.

The military and civilian personnel who join the ranks of the Islamic Emirate should not be worried because the Islamic Emirate is determined to appoint them in a proper manner as per their abilities and talents to serve their country and nation in the future.

In areas which are under the control of the Islamic Emirate, people should lead a normal life, especially in the official arena, whether it is educational, healthy, social or cultural. No one should leave their area and country. They shall live a normal life; our nation and country need services, and Afghanistan is our joint home that we will build and serve together ...
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight ....
 

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Like Saigon before it, desperate civilians storm the gates of Kabul international Airport to try and get one of the military flights.

Meanwhile the US as approved an increase to 6k troops to move into Afghanistan but its probably to late.
 

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I maintain that the US Administration has known for awhile the Taliban were going to be back in power and none of this is a surprise. There hasn't been an American soldier killed in Afghanistan in almost a year and a half and that's no coincidence. They made a deal with them, they just will never admit it publicly.
Yup. It isn’t a coincidence. That said, the original 2001 premise no longer exists, so from their POV, one could easily consider that collateral value to Afghans in the interceding period was a bonus, but not critical to American Interests.
 

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Meanwhile the US as approved an increase to 6k troops to move into Afghanistan but its probably to late.
Its almost like pulling out this quickly was a bad idea. Who wants to bet US troop levels will be back very shortly to the level they were before the withdrawal was announced?
 

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Its almost like pulling out this quickly was a bad idea. Who wants to bet US troop levels will be back very shortly to the level they were before the withdrawal was announced?
It will be, until everyone they care to get out is out, then it will quickly be zero*.

*not accounting for those off the books types who do the stuff nobody hears about
 

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RCH871, a USAF C17, got out of Kabul a couple hours ago and tanked from a KC135 over Kandahar or thereabouts. It went feet wet over the Gulf of Oman a little while ago, transponder went back on. There’s an audio capture of ATC querying the plane... 800 souls on board. Not comfortable, but nuts to butts it’s possible.


Two US Hercs landed a few hours ago. A British Globemaster is on the way in presently, and I saw at least three aerial refuellers blip off transponder maps eastbound over the Gulf of Oman. The op is still moving. Live flight trackers are capturing most of the back and forth over the emirates, though my understanding is that if planes are flying formation only one has to squawk.

The open source stuff available on this is really interesting.
 

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RCH871, a USAF C17, got out of Kabul a couple hours ago and tanked from a KC135 over Kandahar or thereabouts. It went feet wet over the Gulf of Oman a little while ago, transponder went back on. There’s an audio capture of ATC querying the plane... 800 souls on board. Not comfortable, but nuts to butts it’s possible.
RCAF Loadmasters everywhere would have a stroke if they read that statement.
 

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Put a fork in it


KABUL (Reuters) -- Taliban insurgents entered Kabul on Sunday and President Ashraf Ghani left Afghanistan saying he wanted to avoid bloodshed, bringing the Islamist militants close to taking over the country two decades after they were overthrown by a U.S.-led invasion.

As night fell, local television 1TV reported that multiple explosions were heard in the city, which had been largely quiet earlier in the day. It said gunfire could be heard near the airport, where foreign diplomats, officials and other Afghans fled seeking to leave the country.

Aid group Emergency said 80 wounded people had been brought to its hospital in Kabul, which was at capacity, and that it had restricted admission to people with life-threatening injuries.

It was not yet clear where Ghani was headed or how exactly power would be transferred following the Taliban's lightning sweep in recent weeks across Afghanistan. Their advance accelerated as U.S. and other foreign troops withdrew in line with President Joe Biden's desire to end America's longest war, launched after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Insurgents entered the presidential palace and took control of it, two senior Taliban commanders in Kabul said. Al Jazeera television later showed footage of what it said were Taliban commanders in the palace with dozens of armed fighters.

The Taliban also said they had taken control of most of the districts around the outskirts of the capital.

In a post on Facebook, Ghani said he had left the country to avoid bloodshed and clashes with the Taliban that would endanger millions of residents of Kabul. He did not say where he was.
 

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Ghani left, but hamid karzai stayed behind.

Best of luck to Karzai
 

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And that's all she wrote...


Taliban says Afghanistan war over as president flees: Live​

More than 60 countries call for safe departure of Afghans and foreigners as Taliban takes over Kabul’s presidential palace.

The Taliban has declared the war in Afghanistan over after its fighters swept into the capital, Kabul, and President Ashraf Ghani fled the country.

Panic and fear gripped Kabul on Monday as heavily armed Taliban fighters took control of the abandoned presidential palace and Western nations scrambled to evacuate their citizens. Hundreds of Afghans desperate to leave the country also flooded the Kabul airport.

A spokesman for Taliban’s political office told Al Jazeera the group did not want to live in isolation and said the type and form of the new government in Afghanistan would be made clear soon.

Mohammad Naeem also called for peaceful international relations.

“Thanks to God, the war is over in the country,” he said.

“We have reached what we were seeking, which is the freedom of our country and the independence of our people,” he added. “We will not allow anyone to use our lands to target anyone, and we do not want to harm others.”


 

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A little premature. I've seen news that Dostum is gathering forces. Northern Alliance redux could make this civil war carry on.
 
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