Eye In The Sky said:The MND did confirm today that the government will be picking up VAdm Norman's legal fees, the amount to be determined.
The MilPoints should have read sarcasm emoji; some people require small word explanations when it comes to using facts.PPCLI Guy said:Haggis - please keep your facts to yourself. They impede the narrative.
Haggis said:A stay of proceedings doesn't bar someone from entering the US. It is not a finding of guilt.
If your criminal offence has been stayed in court, then it is not a full conviction however the criminal record will still show up on a criminal background check or RCMP or CPIC report. Whether your criminal offence was an assault, theft, fraud or anything else that was stayed in court, it will show up for life until you apply to get it removed.
This will get in the way of getting employment, volunteering and traveling to the US as it can still be seen by the public.
It is important to apply for a file destruction in order to remove your stayed offence from public record. Once completed, your offence will no longer show up on a criminal background check or RCMP file and you will be safe for work, travel and volunteering. You do not need a full record suspension or pardon as a stayed offence is not a full conviction but a file destruction will be enough.
Here is a recent article on the CBC about how a stayed sexual offence has severely affected the person’s ability to get work:
Cloud Cover said:It also true that the US does not recognize various status under the Canadian Criminal Justice System, and we do not recognize parts of their CJS.
As the Norman case got more headlines and the issue of whether the Justin Trudeau government would waive cabinet confidence and thus free civil servants to speak honestly, it became clear that most of the documents the defence is seeking date to the Harper era. In apparent reply to all this, Harper even tweeted that he had never claimed cabinet confidence. Yet asked for that waiver — or any evidence the current government had even asked Harper for it — repeatedly by the defence, the government refused to answer. Only on Nov. 1, 2018 did the government finally say it wouldn’t claim that confidence, but rather “the public interest immunity.”
Can't find the original article re former PM Harper releasing his Cabinet documents. Wiped from the internet.
X Royal said:Starting to look like the Conservatives held information all along that could have put the end to Norman's charges.
They are playing the nobody asked so we didn't tell game and let VAdm Norman swing in the wind for their own political gains.
Only after Normans defense interviewed them did their information come out.
X Royal said:https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/how-evidence-from-harpers-conservative-government-helped-collapse-the-case-against-mark-norman?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1R-emuTwz75O9P0sl1swE1SiQcxtqRNFxurUtfiH7h_qd5giDM3QgLFVc#Echobox=1557451118
How do you explain this?
How about non documented occurrences which have now became evident?FJAG said:This might cover it.
Email from Harper to Michael Wernick and others last November.
X Royal said:How about non documented occurrences which have now became evident?
Not "DOCUMENTS" is a big difference here.