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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2011, 00:04:18 »
Hello everyone,

I understand that this question may have been asked before, but i have been rummaging through the forums for a couple hours now and have searched on the topic but cant seem to really get a straight answer... maybe I'm not looking properly. Sorry for bothering any of the mods.
Anyways, I had a question about my application to join the CF reserves as an Infantry Soldier :salute:
There are three options for Infantry listed : PPCLI, RCR, RR22ER
I've checked out the first two's websites already, cant find the third one (i think its a french regiment).

I'm not sure what to put down on my application though since I'm looking to join the reserves and it looks like these options are regular force ?  ???
I have no idea ( sorry for the lack of knowledge ). I'm looking for a reserve in or close to Toronto since i will be attending school near there.
I'm thinking the recruiter may have given me the wrong form, but that's just a wild guess cause I'm lost  :brickwall:

Any thoughts?

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2011, 00:14:28 »
I also would like to state that i have no idea what im doing in this application because the recruiter didnt really help me that much so im kinda lost.
I plan on going back there to get things clarified, but i tried here first

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2011, 00:14:54 »
Though I am not sure of the hiring status of Infantry, I do know that these are indeed Reg Units and are not Reserve. If you are near Toronto I would suggest looking up the Queens Own Rifles (QOR) or 48th Highlanders of Canada.

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2011, 01:02:51 »
Wow that was very helpful thank you !
I will be heading down to each reserve to check them out and hopefully soon enough be in the infantry
Heard that they take a long time to recruit new applicants though :-\
Thanks again anyway 

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2011, 16:20:11 »
To clear some things up,
I think what Romanmaz was talking about was the recruiter telling him which unit was in need of boots, today my application was submitted and the recruiter told me that if I accept the job offer after all the procedures for applying, that PPCLI was the only unit accepting men :nod:

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2011, 17:22:03 »
Romanmaz is actually right, all of the young Cpl/Ptes I know all were given a choice upon application of Regiments (NOT Battalions) and all of their choices were honoured. In fact, they even prompt you for the information during the interview if you didn't provide it.

These experiences are from at least 4 years ago to just over a year ago.

EDIT: As made apparent by JRH93's post, things can change, I'm just stating that in the last 5 years of so, standard practice was to offer the choice.
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2011, 17:37:39 »
When a soldier receives his offer of employment for infantry, it clearly states which regiment he will belong to.  From the moment you are sworn in, you become a member of that regiment.  This is why the trade seemed over strength to NDHQ, but not at unit level.

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2011, 17:38:23 »
In 2003, during my recruiting process, they asked me which my preference would be and when I got my call, they said what Regiment I'd go to. During training, the Bn I'd end up at changed on a weekly basis.
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2011, 20:10:13 »
To clear some things up,
I think what Romanmaz was talking about was the recruiter telling him which unit was in need of boots, today my application was submitted and the recruiter told me that if I accept the job offer after all the procedures for applying, that PPCLI was the only unit accepting men :nod:

True enough - the PPCLI only accepts Men (gender neutral term meaning mature, driven and generally manlier specimens).

Not so sure about the other Regiments... >:D
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2011, 20:36:17 »
 :rofl:
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2011, 22:05:22 »
I've never heard of someone attached to PPCLI, RCR, or Vandoos, before they had even started BMQ....


It was like that 11 years ago when I got in, I don't see why it would change.

The recruiter on the phone told me "I have a job offer for you with The RCR."

"What about PPCLI?" I inquired

"You'll have to wait for PPCLI, could be up to a year."

"RCR it is then!" I exclaimed with an empty wallet.

I imagine conversations like that occur every so often with infantry recruits. 

As explained to me, albeit a dozen years ago, your placed on a merit list according to your CFAT scores, PT test results, (when they did PT tests at the CFRC,) and interview.  The list is accessible by both Anglo regiments for Anglo recruits and when a certain number of positions become available they scrape off the top of the list and offer them jobs regardless of which regiment the recruit prefers.  You can choose to decline the offer, but at our own peril. 

Is that still about what goes on?

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2011, 22:22:21 »
When my brother was in the recruiting process he stated that he wanted PPCLI and a short while after his testing he was offered a position with PPCLI, this was in 2003.  Guys I know that joined up later on in 05/06 etc each stated the Regiment they wanted and when they got the call for a job offer it was for that specific Regiment. 

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2011, 22:32:24 »
In what way is the Infantry competitive? I mean, how specifically would one be a competitive applicant? I'm asking this as a highschool student going into grade 12.

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2011, 22:47:04 »
In what way is the Infantry competitive? I mean, how specifically would one be a competitive applicant? I'm asking this as a highschool student going into grade 12.
You're ranked against other applicants based on your MP (Military Proficiency) score. It's a cumulative score based on your Interview, CFAT Score, and previous educational background. All things you could have figured out in 5 seconds using the search function......



Edit* Missed a word in there.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 23:16:47 by Romanmaz »
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2011, 23:09:44 »
You're ranked against other applicants based on your MP (Military Proficiency) score. It's a cumulative score based on your Interview, CFAT Score, and previous educational background. All things you could have figured in 5 seconds using the search function......
Thanks but I honestly can't think of keywords that would bring me this information. Even "military proficiency" doesn't return anything of relevance. Also, would that mean a high school graduate with no university degree is unlikely to be accepted or that high school marks have a significant effect? My attempts at searches haven't returned an answer for this question.

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2011, 23:30:56 »
Thanks but I honestly can't think of keywords that would bring me this information. Even "military proficiency" doesn't return anything of relevance. Also, would that mean a high school graduate with no university degree is unlikely to be accepted or that high school marks have a significant effect? My attempts at searches haven't returned an answer for this question.
http://tinyurl.com/44de2cs The first page, first answer, is me saying the exact same thing I just told you. ;)
Well, that depends on how many university graduates apply for the same ncm position you're applying for. Obviously they would have an advantage over you in the previous educational background criteria, however, that is only one factor in determining your MP score. The interview and CFAT score are much more relevant. I believe it's broken down 60% Interview, 20% CFAT, and 20% Previous Education, but don't quote me on that. I applied and got a job offer in just under 5 months with a high-school diploma, but I did extremely well on my interview and CFAT.
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2011, 00:04:44 »
http://tinyurl.com/44de2cs The first page, first answer, is me saying the exact same thing I just told you. ;)
Well, that depends on how many university graduates apply for the same ncm position you're applying for. Obviously they would have an advantage over you in the previous educational background criteria, however, that is only one factor in determining your MP score. The interview and CFAT score are much more relevant. I believe it's broken down 60% Interview, 20% CFAT, and 20% Previous Education, but don't quote me on that. I applied and got a job offer in just under 5 months with a high-school diploma, but I did extremely well on my interview and CFAT.
Thanks a lot for the information. I was using the site search bar, by the way.

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2011, 00:19:01 »
Thanks a lot for the information. I was using the site search bar, by the way.

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No problem.
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2011, 00:44:36 »

 :salute:
No problem.
what was your average in HS?

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2011, 02:43:16 »
what was your average in HS?
It wasn't that amazing (70's-80's with a little bit of sweet talking), I was an athlete in high-school.  :pushup: Everyone used to joke and tell me I spent more time behind the school then inside the building...
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2011, 20:57:18 »
It wasn't that amazing (70's-80's with a little bit of sweet talking), I was an athlete in high-school.  :pushup: Everyone used to joke and tell me I spent more time behind the school then inside the building...
Congratulations on your job offer, would be lying if I said I wasn't extraordinarily jealous! I guess thats what I get for slacking in High School

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2011, 21:45:56 »
In what way is the Infantry competitive? I mean, how specifically would one be a competitive applicant? I'm asking this as a highschool student going into grade 12.

At this specific point in time, you would not likely be a competitive applicant due to your level of education.  That is, unless you are doing an extraordinary amount of volunteer work, sports, holding down a job, etc.  Basically, anything that "bumps up" your resume is going to make you more competitive (education, work experience, volunteer work/community involvement, sports/fitness), coupled with your aptitude test score, and how you do on the interview. 

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2011, 22:32:50 »
At this specific point in time, you would not likely be a competitive applicant due to your level of education.  That is, unless you are doing an extraordinary amount of volunteer work, sports, holding down a job, etc.  Basically, anything that "bumps up" your resume is going to make you more competitive (education, work experience, volunteer work/community involvement, sports/fitness), coupled with your aptitude test score, and how you do on the interview.
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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2011, 02:43:43 »
At this specific point in time, you would not likely be a competitive applicant due to your level of education.  That is, unless you are doing an extraordinary amount of volunteer work, sports, holding down a job, etc.  Basically, anything that "bumps up" your resume is going to make you more competitive (education, work experience, volunteer work/community involvement, sports/fitness), coupled with your aptitude test score, and how you do on the interview.
I'm not looking to apply until I graduate. Are you referring specifically to only having a grade 11 or only having a high school education in general?

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Re: Infantry Application (merged thread)
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2011, 22:11:45 »
High school education in general.  If you're lucky, the level of competitiveness will go down by the time you're ready to apply.