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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3125 on: January 11, 2017, 22:48:32 »
My money is Hispanic community.

Maybe you're right. An African-American candidate did ok in 2008 and 2012.

Barrack Obama in 2008 Popular Vote: 69,498,516   Electoral 365 

Barrack Obama in 2012 Popular Vote: 65,915,795   Electoral  332

Prohibited from serving third term.

Donald Trump in 2016   Popular Vote: 62,979,879   Electoral: 304

I agree that someone from the Hispanic-American community would also likely do well.
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3126 on: January 12, 2017, 09:32:02 »
Too Late.

The professor who was predicting Trump's victory, and has now successfully been able to accurately predict the winner for the past two decades, has also predicted that Trump would be Impeached.  That all before Trump's victory.

Many of the predictions that Trump would win came from statistical analysis of things like betting pools, social media and spread over a period of elections, so I do give these credence. OTOH, Impeachment is extremely rare (only two examples in the entire history of the United States: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), so I would have to question the statistical model and validity of this prediction.

There will be a lot of beer and popcorn consumed over the next four years, however.
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3127 on: January 12, 2017, 09:37:56 »
Just for info, ref Professor who predicted Trump win and his Impeachment:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/allan-lichtman-professor-predicts-trump-impeachment-erin-burnett/

(Of course, this is CNN and on Trump's list of media outlets that are promulgating FALSE NEWS.)

The Washington Post also gave this coverage:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/11/prediction-professor-who-called-trumps-big-win-also-made-another-forecast-trump-will-be-impeached/

(Not sure if they are also on Trump's list of those printing False News.)
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3128 on: January 12, 2017, 09:44:25 »
Impeachment is extremely rare (only two examples in the entire history of the United States: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton)

Both were later acquitted by the Senate.

Richard Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.

(Of course, this is CNN and on Trump's list of media outlets that are promulgating FALSE NEWS.)

The Washington Post also gave this coverage: < snip >

(Not sure if they are also on Trump's list of those printing False News.)

Trump adds 'Washington Post' to banned list
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Trump+adds+'Washington+Post'+to+banned+list&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=Vq53WKazIIyN8Qeb8bKACA&gws_rd=ssl#q=%22Trump+adds+%27Washington+Post%27+to+banned+list%22

"Russians are playing @CNN and @NBCNews for such fools - funny to watch, they don't have a clue! @FoxNews totally gets it!"
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3129 on: January 12, 2017, 11:25:57 »
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Trump adds 'Washington Post' to banned list
http://www.usatoday.com/news/


I can't find a story on this at the link. I checked the WaPo site itself and it doesn't seem to be mentioned there either.
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3131 on: January 12, 2017, 11:34:58 »
It could just be a case of a broken catheter  ;D

More like pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining. [:D


Oh, sorry, that would be Trump.

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3132 on: January 12, 2017, 12:18:35 »
Will VAC cover my Trump-Derangement syndrome?
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3133 on: January 12, 2017, 14:22:03 »
Will VAC cover my Trump-Derangement syndrome?

Nothing new about Obama Derangement Syndrome ( ODS ). :)
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3134 on: January 12, 2017, 21:20:33 »
It could just be a case of a broken catheter  ;D

Nope, 'cause the Russians have video proof. :rofl:
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3135 on: January 13, 2017, 09:39:14 »
Russia and proof in the same sentence? I'll be damned  ;D

Nope, 'cause the Russians have video proof. :rofl:

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3136 on: January 13, 2017, 16:28:48 »
So for any of you fellow Canadians who  were wondering why I wasn't a Trump supporter, read this one:

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/pierre-poilievre-trump-could-be-about-to-take-a-bat-to-canadian-jobs

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3137 on: January 13, 2017, 16:35:12 »
Russia and proof in the same sentence? I'll be damned  ;D
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3138 on: January 13, 2017, 16:51:36 »
So for any of you fellow Canadians who  were wondering why I wasn't a Trump supporter,

Was it his economic policies that won the election?

How many of his followers are really studying the numbers of NAFTA and contemplating the strengths and weaknesses of protectionism?
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3139 on: January 13, 2017, 16:59:28 »
Trump can hardly be worse for Canadian jobs than the Liberals IMO.

The article even mentions the exorbitant electricity prices here and ridiculous carbon tax.
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3140 on: January 13, 2017, 17:36:30 »
Was it his economic policies that won the election?

How many of his followers are really studying the numbers of NAFTA and contemplating the strengths and weaknesses of protectionism?

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3141 on: January 13, 2017, 17:48:51 »
There is probably a high number of Canadians with covert feelings similar to that of the Americans asking for a wall to be built as it relates to immigrants to Canada these days. Lets not kid ourselves

Was it his economic policies that won the election?

How many of his followers are really studying the numbers of NAFTA and contemplating the strengths and weaknesses of protectionism?

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3142 on: January 13, 2017, 17:50:51 »
Quote
Joe Biden: I will not run for president in 2020 but I am working to cure cancer

He shouldn't bother...as he couldn't win anyway if he tried.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/joe-biden-think-tank-research-centre-university-pennsylvania-delaware-white-house-staff-cancer-a7526881.html

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3143 on: January 13, 2017, 18:01:34 »
There is probably a high number of Canadians with covert feelings similar to that of the Americans asking for a wall to be built as it relates to immigrants to Canada these days.
That's sufficiently generic; it's probably pretty close to the percentage that see racism...or oppression....or aliens... at every turn. 

And we're even using the same sources, so it's got to be true!   :nod:

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3144 on: January 13, 2017, 18:13:11 »
It is OK, Mike.  We're all racist. And, as my wife keeps telling me, it is all my fault. 

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3145 on: January 13, 2017, 18:45:15 »
Was it his economic policies that won the election?

How many of his followers are really studying the numbers of NAFTA and contemplating the strengths and weaknesses of protectionism?

Probably the same amount that aren't worried about repealing Obamacare because they have the affordable health care act....lol
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« Reply #3146 on: January 13, 2017, 18:49:08 »
Probably the same amount that aren't worried about repealing Obamacare because they have the affordable health care act....lol

"I'm not on Obamacare. My insurance is through the ACA (Affordable Care Act), which is what they had to come up with after Obamacare crashed and burned as bad as it did. So I'm gonna be fine." 

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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3147 on: January 13, 2017, 18:52:06 »
Performers for the inaugural next week....

Donald Trump won't be getting Paul Anka after all, but Toby Keith, Jennifer Holliday and 3 Doors Down are among performers slated for inauguration celebrations in Washington, D.C., next week.

Country singer Keith, Broadway star Holliday and southern rockers 3 Doors Down, as well as a collection of choirs and bands, will perform at two pre-inauguration concerts at Lincoln Memorial on Jan. 19, organizers announced Friday.

However, contrary to earlier media reports, Anka won't be singing at the inauguration ball on Jan. 20, despite Trump being "an old friend of mine for 50 years."

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Re: US Election: 2016
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Re: US Election: 2016
« Reply #3149 on: January 13, 2017, 20:01:19 »
So for any of you fellow Canadians who  were wondering why I wasn't a Trump supporter, read this one:

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/pierre-poilievre-trump-could-be-about-to-take-a-bat-to-canadian-jobs

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We already have that in one respect or another. The ARRA which was part of the stimulus put in place incorporated a Buy America clause for any federaly funded infrastructure project. It stipulated that all iron or steel used for construction must be American sourced. There was an exception for components which were incidental and not a major part of the product. For example a precast concrete unit would require the reinforcing to be American sourced (raw materials thru to final fabrication), but items such as lifting inserts and tie wire could be foreign sourced, as long as it was less than a certain percentage of the overall amount of steel and iron used, and less than a certain percentage of the total cost of materials used. Similar requirements for other materials or products used in construction was in place as well, with similar exemptions.

This exemption was repealed when the courts said that the Federal Highway Administration did not follow the proper procedure to implement the exemption. So manufacturers and fabricators were left scrambling to find American sources for the incidental materials / products. In some cases there was no American source. The FHWA is now in the process of reimplementing a similar exemption clause through the proper procedures.

As a result of the But America clause, many Canadian steel fabricators were cut off from the northern US markets. When the exemption was taken away, Canadian suppliers of incidental steel components lost their markets as well.

One interesting problem came about when it was found that the structural elements on a bridge replacement project were fabricated in Canada, after the bridge was completed. The supplier was a US company using one of its Canadian facilities to fabricate the steel elements. It was tied up in the courts for several years. The final outcome was that the general contractor and the supplier paid stiff fines for violating the provisions. But the steel itself was brought in from a US mill, which technically met the Buy America clause, but because the fabrication was in a Canadian facility it was deemed to be foreign sourced. Although the parties paid fines, it could have been a lot worse, as the DOT that owned the bridge had the option to have the structure rebuilt with American sourced materials and components. They decided that it was not a reasonable solution, and instead opted for a fefund of the steel costs. The courts flipped back and forth on this, and ultimately they resolved it to heavy fines, which was significantly less that the full steel costs.
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