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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2017, 14:07:20 »
Looks absolutely ridiculous.

Hoping you include all the C Army patches and stuff that are getting thrown on CADPAT too.  Its not just the RCAF...but, I wish we weren't following suit.

I will hold onto my non Velcro sleeve CADPAT for as long as I can.  Maybe even longer!
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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2017, 16:06:46 »
Looks absolutely ridiculous.

This whole fascination with velcro (whoops, I mean hook and loop) is mind boggling. Buttons are much more quiet and they rarely open up when you brush against something, velcro on the other hand...

Tsk.. you should know that all it takes is some Special Forces training:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSK3maq8Cyk
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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2017, 19:21:39 »
Tsk.. you should know that all it takes is some Special Forces training:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSK3maq8Cyk
Don't knock it it actually does work. I mean did you hear the Velcro  , I  didn't .
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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2017, 19:44:14 »
Looks like it must be official...https://www.facebook.com/ALCOMANR/posts/1456958294324788

So one can have full-colour (no "at least 50% green" or similar restrictions) patches on CADPAT, but not on flight suits. 

Also, CWO Scarcella (on the right) must be making some sort of quiet revolt statement by continuing to wear the old-style faded CADPAT  >:D
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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2017, 20:38:03 »
So one can have full-colour (no "at least 50% green" or similar restrictions) patches on CADPAT, but not on flight suits. 

Also, CWO Scarcella (on the right) must be making some sort of quiet revolt statement by continuing to wear the old-style faded CADPAT  >:D

Isn't the 1 CAD motto *"Fac, ut ego dico, non ut faciam tibi"?

Maybe "they didn't have any of his size"...that's what I get told when I need to exchange my operational dress the last few months.   >:D

*according to Google translate, that is Latin for "do as I say, not as I do"   ^-^
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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2017, 02:10:28 »
Hoping you include all the C Army patches and stuff that are getting thrown on CADPAT too.  Its not just the RCAF...but, I wish we weren't following suit.

I will hold onto my non Velcro sleeve CADPAT for as long as I can.  Maybe even longer!

Absolutely I include those as well.

Same here, I like the old style pants better too...

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2017, 22:27:13 »
So its an army and RCAF thing. I think it's wrong and I hate seeing the Navy being sucked down into this slovenly attitude, but if people are making it up as they go along, I guess our next parade we'll do white gaiters for the sailors and black leather gaiters and brown gloves for the officers.

To quote my parents, "Would you jump off a bridge because everyone else is doing it?"

They've jumped off of the bridge in North Korea, too - even adding helmets with flipped-up NVGs to massed goose-steppers in Kim Fat-Boy's parade yesterday.

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2017, 22:51:35 »
They've jumped off of the bridge in North Korea, too - even adding helmets with flipped-up NVGs to massed goose-steppers in Kim Fat-Boy's parade yesterday.

So you want to emulate North Korea? Have at er. I guess.

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2017, 10:08:15 »
Where, dear boy, did I profess any emulative desire?

I was merely providing an indicator of a possible global military fashion tsunami.

But it would amuse me greatly to see fighter pilots parade like those* at 3:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKgf6_Mn7V4. Ours could add oxygen masks and G-suits as proof of their superiority.

* And no, I've not fallen for the propaganda. None of those guys have ever touched an aeroplane.

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2017, 10:59:05 »
Where, dear boy, did I profess any emulative desire?

I was merely providing an indicator of a possible global military fashion tsunami.

But it would amuse me greatly to see fighter pilots parade like those* at 3:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKgf6_Mn7V4. Ours could add oxygen masks and G-suits as proof of their superiority.

* And no, I've not fallen for the propaganda. None of those guys have ever touched an aeroplane.

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2017, 11:06:50 »
I am personally thoroughly impressed...that they could muster up THAT many pairs of white gloves at once!!  I bet they all have keepers too!!

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2017, 11:27:18 »
Say what you will, their drill and precision on parade is a thing of beauty to behold.  I never get tired of watching these videos as I can appreciate the amount of effort, dedication and time it took to be perfect like that.  Besides, the hotties in the pink uniforms and white go-go boots are especially compelling to my eyes. 

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2017, 11:34:25 »
Sizing, and assessment for other physical attributes, was most likely done at the point of conscription where these people were streamed into a purely parade function. That level of drill excellence is only achievable if it is a specialty.

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2017, 11:48:40 »
Say what you will, their drill and precision on parade is a thing of beauty to behold.  I never get tired of watching these videos as I can appreciate the amount of effort, dedication and time it took to be perfect like that.  Besides, the hotties in the pink uniforms and white go-go boots are especially compelling to my eyes.

I personnally see perfection (in anything other than very few scenarios) as a waste of time, especially something as cosmetic as drill (don't need to be perfect to understand the whole reacting to orders and all)

Aiming for perfection during training?  Certainly.  Demanding a perfect result?  You'll spend 80% of your time chasing the last 20% of the results.  Waste of time that you could spend broadening your knowledge and skills.

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2017, 11:50:17 »
No rain on their parade. Those who screw up drill in NK are shot. Big incentive.  ;D

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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2017, 12:09:46 »
It seems to be a losing battle Pusser. Did you see the pictures of the CDS at MARPAC and the honour guard in NCD's and CADPAT?


Why do we have orders and directives when this crap goes on?

I also saw pictures from yesterday of the same outfit in Calgary.

I'm Army.  The only thing good that I see about this pic is my son. It'd be even better if my son was not in cadpat with the flags out.
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Re: CF moving to Multicam?
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2017, 12:23:23 »
I personnally see perfection (in anything other than very few scenarios) as a waste of time, especially something as cosmetic as drill (don't need to be perfect to understand the whole reacting to orders and all)

Aiming for perfection during training?  Certainly.  Demanding a perfect result?  You'll spend 80% of your time chasing the last 20% of the results.  Waste of time that you could spend broadening your knowledge and skills.

This is a propaganda pageant, a tool, put on for the world to see and admire.  This has an important purpose to China and I agree with Loachman, this is probably all these people do for the State while they're in uniform.  They have plenty of people and can afford to have just show performers on the payroll.

Could they be doing something better with their lives?  Maybe... but the same could be said for all those professional athletes.  They're at the top of their tier, doing what they do to the best of their ability.  Could they have put those years of training and dedication into something more beneficial to society?  Again, maybe...  doesn't stop all the sports fans from ohhhing and ahhing while watching them to their thing.

Maybe those Chinese kids spend 80% of their time in uniform chasing that 20%.  They seem, to my eyes, to have caught it nevertheless.  Sure, you're right, good enough is usually good enough.  I can still stand back and watch someone do something much better than I could ever hope to achieve and admire their work.  (sure as frig, they look better than what's on display in the photo of our colour party, et al)
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