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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1600 on: October 07, 2016, 19:36:42 »
Anyone who voted for the Liberals on the basis of policy should receive a mental health examination immediately.

Like everything else, projects and initiatives will be examined for the amount of votes or kickback they can generate on an individual basis, not on how well they support any sort of overarching philosophy (even if only in the breach). If you were looking for that, you could have voted for the Conservatives or NDP, Canada's two major transformative parties.
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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1601 on: October 07, 2016, 22:20:19 »
"Trudeau government approves Petronas' $36-billion LNG project in BC"

And the pipeline to connect sources to the delivery terminal is in what state at present?
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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1602 on: October 25, 2016, 17:07:11 »
PRGT has applied for early access works and has done most of the route survey, now they wait for the PNW LNG final investment decision

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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1603 on: January 16, 2017, 09:47:59 »
Also, apparently Canada is doomed. With the trifecta of having lower corporate taxes than Canada, no carbon tax and the border tax implemented on good imported into the USA Canada is going to look a lot less competitive in a very short order. 35 percent to 15 percent. 10 per cent lower than the federal-provincial corporate tax rate in Canada.

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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1604 on: January 16, 2017, 11:12:41 »
The trifecta you describe pales in comparison to the effectiveness of McGWynnty's impact on the soaring cost of energy and doing business in Ontario. :nod:

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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1605 on: January 16, 2017, 11:51:01 »
Uh oh...

Trump Claims America Should Never Have Given Canada Its Independence

http://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/trump-canada-independence-was-mistake/


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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1606 on: January 16, 2017, 11:57:12 »
The trifecta you describe pales in comparison to the effectiveness of McGWynnty's impact on the soaring cost of energy and doing business in Ontario. :nod:

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That's fine, Quebec to the east has cheap electricity and plenty of manufacturing capacity. Amazon picked Montreal as the location for its new cloud computing data center recently citing low electricity costs.

Jobs can shift east or west in Canada based on things like taxes or electricity costs, with no net loss for Canada overall, the fear now is jobs Canada wide shifting south due to the trifecta mentioned earlier.
Uh oh...

Trump Claims America Should Never Have Given Canada Its Independence

http://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/trump-canada-independence-was-mistake/
That's funny. I knew about the Onion, did not know about BS journal.
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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1607 on: January 23, 2017, 07:46:31 »
So TPP is dead and NAFTA is to be "renegotiated"

Hard times coming for Canada it appears.
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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1608 on: January 27, 2017, 17:24:46 »
GM just moved 600 jobs from Ingersoll, ON to Mexico. I think this is just the beginning of outsourcing jobs from Canada now we have a combined jacked-up hydro, labour, carbon tax, and etc.

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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1609 on: January 27, 2017, 23:03:59 »
GM just moved 600 jobs from Ingersoll, ON to Mexico. I think this is just the beginning of outsourcing jobs from Canada now we have a combined jacked-up hydro, labour, carbon tax, and etc.

They won't take those jobs out of the US because Trump, but Canada has Trudeau so we're just begging to be crushed.

I wonder how many of those 600 voted Liberal last election?

Liberanos were counting on other world leaders to gouge their populace with more and more taxes, but they have been Trumped. 

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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1610 on: January 28, 2017, 04:01:35 »
They won't take those jobs out of the US because Trump, but Canada has Trudeau so we're just begging to be crushed.

I wonder how many of those 600 voted Liberal last election?

Liberanos were counting on other world leaders to gouge their populace with more and more taxes, but they have been Trumped.
In my opinion, they want to focus in Latin America as they are thriving there. Here's a 2009 article from LA Times:

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BOGOTA, COLOMBIA, AND LOS ANGELES — For all its miscues at home, General Motors Corp. has built a powerhouse operation in Latin America, where its fuel-efficient vehicles could play a crucial role in returning the battered company to health.

Since it filed for bankruptcy a month ago, the automaker has been striking deals to shed much of its operations, including its Hummer, Saturn and Saab brands and its Opel division in Europe. GM is closing more North American factories, laying off workers and slashing its U.S. dealership ranks.

But despite rumors this spring, GM's thriving Latin America operations are likely to escape the ax, analysts said.

If my assumption is right, GM Ingersoll workers are mostly live in Oxford County and some in London area. The former is under Oxford riding and it has been represented by a Conservative MP since 2004. While London has 4 ridings: Both London North Centre and London West ridings are under Liberal MP, London-Fanshawe is under an NDP MP, Elgin-Middlesex-London is under a Conservative MP. Then again, it's only my assumption that they may be some workers from London and don't have info on how much GM workers are from the city. Purely speculation on my side.
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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1611 on: January 28, 2017, 09:24:05 »

I wonder how many of those 600 voted Liberal last election?


It depends on whether or not they were "Liberal Lifers" or "Diehard Union Followers" vise non-partisan or Conservative/NDP/Green/etc. Party Card Holders.
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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1612 on: January 28, 2017, 20:45:17 »
It depends on whether or not they were "Liberal Lifers" or "Diehard Union Followers" vise non-partisan or Conservative/NDP/Green/etc. Party Card Holders.
Remember when Trudeau got a standing ovation when he showed up at a Unifor conference? lmfao... Who knew 5 months later their 600 members will be out of work this summer.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/news/trudeau-gets-standing-ovation-while-outlining-labour-priorities-at-unifor-conference/vi-BBvZXi4

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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1613 on: January 29, 2017, 13:18:11 »
Heard Unifor rep interviewed on radio and he was pissed.

He said a couple of things about GM's record profits, but his main point was that until Canadian consumers get in GM's face, this will continue.  He added the most frustrating part is that GM continues to shift production to Mexico where they don'the even buy GMonday, much less the trucks that are the issue in this case.

It may be against Trudeau's sensibilities but he should be trying to get on same side as Trump.with China and Mexico on other side, otherwise I think Canadian manufacturing is about to get destroyed.
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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1614 on: January 29, 2017, 13:50:10 »

It may be against Trudeau's sensibilities but he should be trying to get on same side as Trump.with China and Mexico on other side, otherwise I think Canadian manufacturing is about to get destroyed.

That barn door has been open for quite some time now.  It may already be too late to close it.
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Re: Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread
« Reply #1615 on: January 29, 2017, 20:06:35 »
With the price of electricity and a carbon tax as well, there is little chance of industry remaining competitive in this country.  Expect more closures and more layoffs as industries relocate to a more welcoming environment.  For proof, take a drive around Belgium or France and count the shuttered factories and empty parking lots at Opel and others.