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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

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I have long said that you could fund the CAF to 4 percent of GDP, but we would still lag behind in NATO and be much the same where we are.

It's never the money, it's politics. It's procedures. It's the pork-barreling in our defence spending that makes us a paper tiger in NATO.

My only hope in all of this for the CAF and the GoC, whatever the political stripe that may be, is that it will rouse them out of the "Peace Dividend" slumber. The world has been unstable since 1945. We have used geography, proximity, and association as a Defence Policy ever since. ICBMs don't care how close to the U.S. or how far from Russia/China we are.

Don't give us a dime more, but let us spend money on defence like it matters. The fact we follow the same rules for purchasing a fighter aircraft as we do for buying office furniture for a Service Canada office is disgraceful. Don't treat defense procurement as a stimulus package for Canadian Industry. There I said it.

We spend so much money, time, and effort trying to get that money to stay in Canada; be it by awarding contracts to companies with no capability to produce items without first "retooling" and"developing the production lines", or by hamstringing perfectly competent and competitive bidders by forcing the project to be made in St. Margaret de Poutain de Champignon, QC because the ruling government either lost the seat in the election, or won it with promises.

We spend so much money and staff hours jumping through TBS regulations that are great for other departments, but are terrible for defence procurement. Some items you have to sole source, because there are technologies and capabilities no one else makes. By doing the bid process, you get companies clamoring for a project they can't deliver on, but because they tick the bright boxes on the score sheet....

I truly and honestly belief we need to split from PSPC and legislate that its not beholden to TBS, only to the PBO/PCO. The guiding principles of this new Defence Procurement department should be "Off the shelf, from somewhere else" if there isn't an industry in Canada.

BOOTFORGEN has demonstrated how well we do when we are able to actually get what we need, instead of lining the pockets of a Canadian company that got lucky.

That, but with tanks, fighters, ships, weapons systems....
 
CDS essentially admits we are not able to under take any large scale operations, we are too under staffed and under equipped.

I admire his courage to say these things when his boss is basically telling the voting public that ‘this is fine.’
 
CDS essentially admits we are not able to under take any large scale operations, we are too under staffed and under equipped.


Good of him to save the government the trouble... a real servant leader move ;)

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CDS essentially admits we are not able to under take any large scale operations, we are too under staffed and under equipped.

Forgetting the Navy and Airforce for a second what is the Army doing that is stressing it so much? A peacetime deployment to Latvia? At what point is it the CAF's and CDS's responsibility to be able to deliver? Quite frankly the CAF's dont seem like value for money. Is it because the funding is never enough to get an appreciable return or is it because of the choices made by successive governments and CDS's?
 
Forgetting the Navy and Airforce for a second what is the Army doing that is stressing it so much? A peacetime deployment to Latvia? At what point is it the CAF's and CDS's responsibility to be able to deliver? Quite frankly the CAF's dont seem like value for money. Is it because the funding is never enough to get an appreciable return or is it because of the choices made by successive governments and CDS's?

Holy crap...

"Eyre said his number one priority is getting Canada’s armed forces up to full strength, with an attrition rate of 9.3 per cent between both regular and reserve forces, up from 6.9 per cent last year. The Canadian Armed Forces Retention Strategy was released just last month."
 
Holy crap...

"Eyre said his number one priority is getting Canada’s armed forces up to full strength, with an attrition rate of 9.3 per cent between both regular and reserve forces, up from 6.9 per cent last year. The Canadian Armed Forces Retention Strategy was released just last month."
Yeah that seems like a bad number. its been known that recruitment and retention have been a problem for a long time. Its been talked about on this site. I mean 9.3% is going to be an insurmountable problem if not fixed quickly. Can the CAF do that? It also doesnt help when people wait 2 years to join up.

The 9.3% attrition this is from people not reupping or is the CAF losing 9.3% a year of total personel?
 
Thats a lot for a big institution. Sometimes the problem has to get really big before anyone pays attention I guess. For any small business Ive been involved with we 10% attrition would have been considered a good year. But I have a feeling the CAF are losing the people that actually do the work and are necessary to everyday function. Funny how not that long ago we were talking about some sort of mandatory service, maybe we need it to save the CAF's from itself as much as to provide career opportunities for people
 
Thats a lot for a big institution. Sometimes the problem has to get really big before anyone pays attention I guess. For any small business Ive been involved with we 10% attrition would have been considered a good year. But I have a feeling the CAF are losing the people that actually do the work and are necessary to everyday function. Funny how not that long ago we were talking about some sort of mandatory service, maybe we need it to save the CAF's from itself as much as to provide career opportunities for people
The last thing the CAF needs is people forced to be there... Want to see your good people leave? Make them work alongside people who don't want to be there, and don't care about the job.
 
Holy crap...

"Eyre said his number one priority is getting Canada’s armed forces up to full strength, with an attrition rate of 9.3 per cent between both regular and reserve forces, up from 6.9 per cent last year. The Canadian Armed Forces Retention Strategy was released just last month."

The CAF has a retention strategy? 😄

I thought they were saying as little as a few months ago: "what retention problem?"
 
Thats a lot for a big institution. Sometimes the problem has to get really big before anyone pays attention I guess.
I wonder what the "standard" level of attrition is for the CAF? It can't be zero because people do retire.
 
The reason for why there is that much attrition is 2 fold:

-the largest cohort of generations since the Second World War is starting to retire. Their "replacements" weren't hired due to the FRP in the 90s. Massive gaps up in the senior side of the house for both the Snr NCO/WO cadre as well as the Officer corps.

And

-"doing more with less" for 40 odd years means our equipment is broken, harder to maintain, and in some cases; divested to the point where you're not actually doing the job you saw in the cool recruiting video. Couple that with the gradual the "doing more with less" reduction in traditional supports like housing, social clubs, messes, infrastructure; while downloading it onto the member to provide, while refusing to budge on revizing the Compensation and Benefits structure to attract and retain talent.

Put those two things together and your "CAF Offer TM" isn't nearly as awesome as you make it out to be; both for recruiting and retention.
 
I wonder what the "standard" level of attrition is for the CAF? It can't be zero because people do retire.
From a CAF website:

3.1 Attrition in the CAF​

The average rate of attrition from the CAF (Reg Force and P Res) is generally between 8% and 9%. This rate compares favourably with the Canadian labour market, including both the private (10.2%) and public sectors (4.7%) (Coburn & Cowan, 2019).

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