Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Maxman1]

You know, I don't want anything super flashy or massively expensive - just ambulances. Ones that are reliable, functional, and rapidly available in decent numbers. Is that too much to ask?

Best I do is this:

 

[quadrapiper]

Best I do is this:

That looks awfully tall...

How about this?

 

[Czech_pivo]

That looks awfully tall...

How about this?
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I love the eco friendly air conditioning that this unit has.

 

[Czech_pivo]

From Noah, my favourite defense analyst, it appears that Canada and the South Koreans have been carrying out a serious of meetings/discussions. Interesting to see whar comes out of it.

Let's talk about this weeks visit by DAPA Commissioner Seok Jeon-geun

Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) Commissioner Seok Jong-geun was in Canada this week as part of more high-level discussions.

noahscornerofrandomstuff.substack.com

Any info on if the German - Norwegians have been doing anything similar over the last 3 months?

 

[PrairieFella]

You know, I don't want anything super flashy or massively expensive - just ambulances. Ones that are reliable, functional, and rapidly available in decent numbers. Is that too much to ask?

Aren't the ACSVs coming online? Or are you talking LS type ambs?

 

[dapaterson]

Aren't the ACSVs coming online? Or are you talking LS type ambs?

There's an evacuation chain that does not need every piece to be armored, and the ACSV quantities are low

 

[Staff Weenie]

Aren't the ACSVs coming online? Or are you talking LS type ambs?

There are not enough Amb variants being procured. If we took every ASCV Amb the CAF is getting, and every functional LSVW Amb left in the CAF, we could not support a single full CMBG in operations.

 

[KevinB]

That looks awfully tall...

How about this?
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That’s plain hurtful.

 

[vonGarvin]

There's an evacuation chain that does not need every piece to be armored, and the ACSV quantities are low

Given that a potential adversary that is not a signatory to certain conventions, I would offer that the evac chain ought to be armoured.

 

[KevinB]

There are not enough Amb variants being procured. If we took every ASCV Amb the CAF is getting, and every functional LSVW Amb left in the CAF, we could not support a single full CMBG in operations.

This is my not shocked face.

When I joined in the 80’s it was painfully clear that the CA wasn’t serious about combat medicine or casualty handling. I have not seen anything that would suggest it had changed.


Of course, the CA hasn’t been very serious about a lot of things for decades

 

[KevinB]

Given that a potential adversary that is not a signatory to certain conventions, I would offer that the evac chain ought to be armoured.

I think the issue is there’s a difference between medical evacuation and medical transport. I don’t think the CA has enough for either of those, even if it pretended the other role didn’t exist

 

[vonGarvin]

I think the issue is there’s a difference between medical evacuation and medical transport. I don’t think the CA has enough for either of those, even if it pretended the other role didn’t exist

You're quite right. As I recall "CASEVAC" is what units do to remove their wounded from the field of battle, eg, loaded up in a LAV, carried back to the CCP, etc. And "MEDEVAC" is when health services does it, eg, an ambulance with a Med Tech on board. As for Med TN, I imagine someone taking a civvy taxi to the hospital or something.

 

[Fabius]

I thought medical transport is the movement of patients between medical facilities. Intra hospital transfers, usually done by Ambulance civi side. The patient is usually stable and has already undergone treatment.

Perhaps MEDEVAC is still prior to surgical intervention?

 

[dapaterson]

There are not enough Amb variants being procured. If we took every ASCV Amb the CAF is getting, and every functional LSVW Amb left in the CAF, we could not support a single full CMBG in operations.

The Army lacks equipment for a full CMBG in operations. Problem solved.

 

[GK .Dundas]

The Army lacks equipment for a full CMBG in operations. Problem solved.

I suspect it lacks the personal for a full CMBG anyway.

 

[TangoTwoBravo]

NATO defines casualty evacuation (CASEVAC) as the non-medically supervised movement of casualties. Medical evacuation (MEDEVAC) is defined as the medically-supervised process of moving casualties.

 

[KevinB]

FWIW there are 2 versions of Medical AMPV's here

I attached BAE's glossy Brochure pages.

Medical Evac

Medical Treatment

 

[Staff Weenie]

Armoured Ambs, tracked or wheeled, are definitely needed for Role 1 HSS in a major conflict - essentially moving casualties from the CCP back to the UMS. From the UMS back to the Role 2 (BMS), I would suggest wheeled armoured ambs are the best option. BMS to Role 3 can be wheeled, minimal armour.

That is the ideal....

The problem, is that observations from Ukraine show that Ambs have a short life span (can be as low as three days). They are being deliberately targeted. That means that the Role 2 and Role 3 need to be farther back, with longer evac times, increasing time lags from injury to definitive surgical intervention. A lot of the movement of casualties is now done at night only. In terms of Ambs, anything forward of the BMS needs to be small enough to avoid drawing attention, heavily enough armoured to survive drone attacks, quick and agile, and cheap enough to get in quantity - and I cannot think of anything available that offers that balance.

 

[Cloud Cover]

That looks awfully tall...

How about this?
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They didn’t …. Omg they did.

 

[Cloud Cover]

I love the eco friendly air conditioning that this unit has.

You can park it on a downhill slope and wash the swear words out of it …