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A little bit more information about the torpedo sinking of the frigate.
  • USS Charlotte fired 2 MK 48, with one missing.
  • the ship was apparently seeking permission from Sri Lanka to cover in harbour

2 other ships are in port for the war. (India and Sri Lanka)



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Interesting article here as well. If true, it changes some perspective about the sinking strongly suggesting the CO of the ship knew he was being hunted, had been warned twice by the US they were going to sink his ship.

 
Last I heard from the President was "unconditional surrender" and Trump's say in who the next Iranian leader is.
Yea so that’s a condition - and a partial objective… Not much of a theory on how to get there.

I’m going to go with no at this time.

What would be good to know is how long is too long for the no new war types giving this a pass.

Ok but it’s not a forever war, it’s just a series of consecutive major combat operations. It’s like subsequent 89 day class Bs.
 
If I don't like the salesman then I don't buy from that company. The company is well-advised to supply me with a different salesman.
 
See, this is a 47 year old war that Trump will end, not a new war, so it's actually further argument for him getting the Nobel, FIFA, F1 and Better Homes and Gardens peace prizes.
"Trump will end." :ROFLMAO: That's aggressively optimistic.

I'm sure a Trumpian victory will be declared but this is an ideological war and ideologies are difficult to kill. The war won't end - it will just change character.

We have our own problems.

Slain Windsor woman expressed fears to CBC News days before she died​

She spoke of death threats and an arson at her home​


Less than a week before she died, a woman stabbed in a small southwestern Ontario town had spoken to CBC about the threats she was facing for speaking out about Khalistan extremism.

Nancy Grewal, 45, was identified by police as the victim in a stabbing outside a home on Todd Lane in LaSalle, Ont., on Tuesday. . . .


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Interesting article here as well. If true, it changes some perspective about the sinking strongly suggesting the CO of the ship knew he was being hunted, had been warned twice by the US they were going to sink his ship.

If true, then I am quite satisfied. In fact the US should be reinforcing this message by broadcasting the exchange and continuously telling the Iranian military how to surrender and that turning against the IRGC is the best way to help Iran and the people. The Iranian military being mostly intact is a important element of transitioning Iran to a new secular government.

The Shah has also explicitly said that there would be no large scale de-baathication of the civil service and will not be repeating the mistakes of Iraq. He said they will need the civil service to report to work as soon as the new government takes over.

As for US forces on the ground, I suspect Israel and US SF teams are already there, but taking some of the Iranian islands with US Marines might be wise and good test of their new doctrine, they could also deploy HIMARS on the islands putting some of the IRGC coastal installations in range. We might see some incursions to seize control of IRGC naval stations to seize and destroy assets designed to attack shipping.
 
Why am I not surprised? Wouldn’t want to ruffle feathers with Vlad…



Here’s more on the “end times theology” invited into the military.

All this talk about “end times” and the coming apocalypse makes me wonder about the Antichrist. For those that believe in it, one would think that the comparison to Donald Trump would be a no brainer. Instead they seem to accept Trump as their Saviour. Which, I guess, is how the Antichrist is supposed to get people to do his bidding.
 
… IMHO, US intelligence knew from open source information (after all, a USN ship was supposed to participate) that it was in India, that the exercise was over and it had sailed, most likely for home …
In fact, a reminder of what else was participating in lieu of the US ship, so OS may not have been the only INT involved ;)
 
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A little bit more information about the torpedo sinking of the frigate.
  • USS Charlotte fired 2 MK 48, with one missing.
  • the ship was apparently seeking permission from Sri Lanka to cover in harbour

2 other ships are in port for the war. (India and Sri Lanka)


It looked like the torpedo that hit almost missed too, unless it's SOP to aim for the ships butt.
 
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Interesting article here as well. If true, it changes some perspective about the sinking strongly suggesting the CO of the ship knew he was being hunted, had been warned twice by the US they were going to sink his ship.

Checks out via what appears to be independent (with links to Saudi Arabia?) media.
An Iranian sailor who was killed when the warship Dena was struck by the US near Sri Lanka had called his father shortly beforehand, saying American forces had issued two warnings for the crew to abandon the vessel, a source close to the family told Iran International.

The Iranian navy warship's commander refused to allow the crew to abandon Dena despite the imminent threat, the source added.

The sailor’s father said some crew members argued with the commander, and the 32 crew members who survived were mainly sailors who managed to escape on lifeboats, according to the source ...
More on the media outlet here:
 
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with gas at 1.50 and diesel at 2 bucks here its just the start of crunch time. I wonder how that plays in the US where they are much more sensitive to gas prices

I don't believe they've even used the lower price before kicking this all off to restock (since Biden) the Strategic Petroleum Reserve either.
 
It looked like the torpedo that hit almost missed too, unless it's SOP to aim for the ships butt.
There is a strong belief that they were trying to target the stern/screws to minimize loss of life.

Friday I was told that actual Mk48 production was ceased over 20 years ago, all that has been done is various refreshers to guidance etc. That doesn’t jibe with some OS web based information, but it did come from a well connected source.

Not my wheelhouse at all, but I don’t think the non improved LA class boats got the recent Mk48 FCS upgrades, just iLA’s, and VA class boats (plus the 3 Seawolf boats)
 
"Trump will end." :ROFLMAO: That's aggressively optimistic.

I'm sure a Trumpian victory will be declared but this is an ideological war and ideologies are difficult to kill. The war won't end - it will just change character.

We have our own problems.




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And thus, in my opinion, less need for Privates and more need for Constables. But we still need lots of Gunners and Bombardiers.
 
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