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Iran Super Thread- Merged

ISR media is citing IRN opposition media saying IRN's Supreme Leader may not be around much longer.
IRN oppo media also archived here.

More on the Canadian-Iranian founder of the oppo media in question:
Might already be a remake of "Weekend at Bernies" It may be that the pretense of him being alive is unravelling.
 
From a Reuters article …
It’s all going so well, yeah?
If the missiles can't be destroyed in the air, and the government can't guarantee the IRGC/Houthis will abide by an agreement, the only remaining option is to destroy the launchers on the ground.

Iran is walking an extremely fine line here. If they aren't able to cement an agreement before ground operations become necessary, they run a very real risk of forcing a ground invasion.

At present the general justification relates to local security issues and a rather ambiguous nuclear question. If the missile bombardments and blockades continue, the casus belli switches to the much easier argument of self defence.

Their proxy militias, and timely luck, helped them survive the first round. The same factors can reverse course just as easily.

In fact, Iran is in an extremely precarious strategic position.
1. They have already attacked most of their neighbours.
2. They have a new blood feud with the USA.
3. Their foreign supply relies on distant powers who have their own issues. Structural confinement for China, hemorrhagic blood loss for Russia.
4. Their technology base is not nearly diversified enough to survive an all out war.
5. Normalization of diplomatic relations relies on exercising strict authority over their proxies.
6. Demonstration of this authority provides undenial proof of an internal threat that justifies martial law and diplomatic isolation of Iran.
7. Failure to exercise this authority forces the conflict to evolve into a larger ground war they are certain to lose.

They may be on the verge of 'not losing' all the way to defeat.
 
Going back to Saudi Arabia specifically. The Kingdom is just that, exactly. It’s a giant welfare state with an autocratic monarchy that safely remains in place as long as its people are generally well fed, mostly content and always safe from enemies. Take away one of those and trouble will start. So yes they are expending ammo stockpiles at a prodigious rate and they shoot off a lot more if they the stockpiles.
Even if Trump walks away from this war, the Saudis can’t if Iran continues to badger and harass them. That monarchy will not submit to the will of Iran.
Perhaps Ukraine really is the only country who can save them if Trump would only get out if the way if his own damned war.
 
If the missiles can't be destroyed in the air, and the government can't guarantee the IRGC/Houthis will abide by an agreement, the only remaining option is to destroy the launchers on the ground.

Iran is walking an extremely fine line here. If they aren't able to cement an agreement before ground operations become necessary, they run a very real risk of forcing a ground invasion.

At present the general justification relates to local security issues and a rather ambiguous nuclear question. If the missile bombardments and blockades continue, the casus belli switches to the much easier argument of self defence.

Their proxy militias, and timely luck, helped them survive the first round. The same factors can reverse course just as easily.
They could but lets be real here.
In fact, Iran is in an extremely precarious strategic position.
Lets evaluate.
1. They have already attacked most of their neighbours.
And most of them have not struck back.
2. They have a new blood feud with the USA.
They always have, since 79. More importantly they have shruged off the might of American air power so what is the USA left with?
3. Their foreign supply relies on distant powers who have their own issues. Structural confinement for China, hemorrhagic blood loss for Russia.
Russia might be losing blood but as long as they can supply Iran with shaheds via the caspian, that doesn't matter. And China has a rail route, and whatever support they provide Iran is largely a rounding error for them
4. Their technology base is not nearly diversified enough to survive an all out war.
Except nobody has the appetite for such a war.
5. Normalization of diplomatic relations relies on exercising strict authority over their proxies.
Which they might have
6. Demonstration of this authority provides undenial proof of an internal threat that justifies martial law and diplomatic isolation of Iran.
So...January 2026?
7. Failure to exercise this authority forces the conflict to evolve into a larger ground war they are certain to lose.
they can only lose a war if someone is willing to launch it. Appetite for that is clearly lacking.
They may be on the verge of 'not losing' all the way to defeat.
That would run counter to everything we've seen since February.
 
Cleaned the politics crap out. Shame on those that took the bait but absolutely know better. You can quote a post and move that quote to the right area.

- Milnet.ca Staff
 
My guess is if they target KSA oil industry any further, then KSA is going to target it what is left of theirs. KSA can survive the economic hit for a few years while they build more pipelines to avoid both choke points. Iran cannot. What happens to Suez royalties will dictate Egypt's response.
 
My guess is if they target KSA oil industry any further, then KSA is going to target it what is left of theirs. KSA can survive the economic hit for a few years while they build more pipelines to avoid both choke points. Iran cannot. What happens to Suez royalties will dictate Egypt's response.
My guess.

USA is done with this, pulls back, pretends it didn't happen, Iran doesn't strike anything else, the Oman Iran strait deal goes into effect, and life goes on, except Iran is in a better financial situation going forward.
 
Maybe Khamenie and McConnell are playing cards together somewhere?
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Things sounds pretty bad on the ground over there.


"TEHRAN, Aug 6 : Petty thefts involving basic food items such as bread, cheese and meat are becoming a symbol of Iran’s worsening economic pressures, with a newspaper investigation linking the rise in supermarket thefts to inflation and declining purchasing power.

The report by Jahan-e Sanat said that unlike major corruption cases involving billions of rials, many recent theft cases involve everyday necessities and reflect the struggles of households facing rising prices and economic hardship.

“There are no billions of tomans, no gold, no luxury villas,” the newspaper wrote, describing cases involving only items such as bread, cheese cans and other basic groceries.

The report highlighted a widely shared CCTV video from a minimarket in the northern city of Babolsar, which appeared to show a woman taking a boxed item from outside a shop at night. While the reason behind the incident remains unclear, many social media users viewed the footage as an example of the difficulties faced by ordinary Iranians struggling to afford necessities. Several users expressed sympathy for the woman and criticized the public sharing of such footage, saying people driven by poverty should not be publicly shamed. Others compared small-scale food thefts with allegations of large-scale corruption and called for greater attention to economic problems.

A supermarket employee quoted by Jahan-e Sanat said he had witnessed several cases over the past 10 months involving customers taking low-cost food items, including cheese, butter, pastries and meat. He said poverty appeared to be a major factor behind many incidents.

Sociologist Mostafa Abroshan said rising inflation, falling purchasing power and job insecurity were contributing to a broader "crisis of livelihoods." "Stealing bread, milk or rice becoming more common reflects a crisis of livelihoods and social justice more than a security crisis," Abroshan told the newspaper. He said addressing inflation, creating employment opportunities and strengthening social support systems would be more effective in reducing petty theft than relying only on stricter enforcement.

The report comes as Iran continues to face economic challenges marked by high prices, reduced purchasing power and pressure on household incomes."

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Going to be the gift (to China and Russia) that keeps on giving loooooong after Trump 2, they've burned through so much over the last 6 months.

Tom Karako, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said the depletion of munitions was a “generational annihilation of the means of conventional deterrence.” The impact on how decisions are made in Beijing and Moscow, he said, could resonate for years.

“It’s impossible for that not to have a significant effect on the decision calculus of Russia and China,” said Mr. Karako, who has been tracking U.S. weapons stockpiles. “They may do something quite deliberate and at the time of their choosing, because keep in mind — we’re going to take years to reconstitute.”

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