LAV 6.0

[Kirkhill]

Off hand the muzzle brake, and the fluted barrel, suggests to me that the gun is a Mk44 which fires 30x173mm ammunition. That ammunition is also common to the Rheinmetall Sky Ranger 30 CUAS system.

 

[suffolkowner]

lol they aren’t calling it the LAV 700 anymore. I wonder what the CA is buying now.

Curious is that’s a TOW, Javelin or Hellfire launcher (Hellfire are usually on exposed rails but some are enclosed). Hellfire or Javelin would at least allow for NLOS.

is it a 6 or a 700? Any details?

If I was a betting man, I'd say SPIKE since we just bought the ground mount version.

Is Israel going to sell us more when we wont sell them anything and arent being nice anymore?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Is Israel going to sell us more when we wont sell them anything and arent being nice anymore?

Israelis like making money

 

[KevinB]

If its that weight does it become a MAV instead? Where does it become a HAV?

HAV being Hoplessly Aboveweight Vehicle ?

 

[Underway]

Is Israel going to sell us more when we wont sell them anything and arent being nice anymore?

EuroSPIKE isn't Israeli anymore... lol Just IP owned by an Israeli company. So I suspect we could just buy Euro-built SPIKE.

 

[Halifax Tar]

EuroSPIKE isn't Israeli anymore... lol Just IP owned by an Israeli company. So I suspect we could just buy Euro-built SPIKE.

From wiki:



Ref: Spike (missile) - Wikipedia

 

[Underway]

From wiki:

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Ref: Spike (missile) - Wikipedia

That the issue has been resolved (for a long time), and they work just fine now. Software (firmware?) issue for the first delivery.

 

[PrairieFella]

I am curious what the difference between LAV 6 Mk 2 and LAV 700 is. On first sight, it does appear the Mk 2 is a bit smaller than the 700.

 

[IKnowNothing]

I am curious what the difference between LAV 6 Mk 2 and LAV 700 is. On first sight, it does appear the Mk 2 is a bit smaller than the 700.

Incremental upgrade(s) to the same frame/chassis vs completely new vehicle is my guess

 

[PrairieFella]

Incremental upgrade(s) to the same frame/chassis vs completely new vehicle is my guess

Yes, but I'm wondering what those are. I was pretty lucky to see the 700 live fire two turret configurations a few years back, but beyond that I don't have much SA on the differences between the two.

 

[suffolkowner]

Yes, but I'm wondering what those are. I was pretty lucky to see the 700 live fire two turret configurations a few years back, but beyond that I don't have much SA on the differences between the two.

LAV 700 for 711 hp CAT engine?
Length 8.2m
Width 3.0m
Height (hull) 2.8m
GVWR 32000kg
Payload 11,000kg
says you can get disc brakes
LAV 6
450 hp CAT
Length 7.62 m
Width 2.78 m
Height 3.16 m
GVWR 28,636 kg
Payload ?
Drum brakes

I read somewhere a long time ago that the 700 incorporates some suspension elements from the Piranha no idea if true or not or how much the different GD share with each other

 

[Fabius]

EuroSPIKE isn't Israeli anymore... lol Just IP owned by an Israeli company. So I suspect we could just buy Euro-built SPIKE.

I am quite certain we cannot. Part of Rafael’s deal with Euro Spike is that Rafael only allows EuroSpike to sell within Europe. The rest of the world has to go through Rafael proper.

 

[dapaterson]

I am quite certain we cannot. Part of Rafael’s deal with Euro Spike is that Rafael only allows EuroSpike to sell within Europe. The rest of the world has to go through Rafael proper.

Buy for Europe. Ship back to Canada.

 

[Underway]

I am quite certain we cannot. Part of Rafael’s deal with Euro Spike is that Rafael only allows EuroSpike to sell within Europe. The rest of the world has to go through Rafael proper.

Well there is always the french one AKERON or whatever its called.

 

[MilEME09]

Here's the whole lav 6 family, including the new 10x10 spg and ammo carrier shown in the bottom right.

 

[PrairieFella]

They sure have flushed the family recently. Hopefully they sort out the disaster that is the LRSS.

Anyone have any impression that ammo carrier?

Based on this chart. It looks like we're in the territory where an entire medium brigade could be outfitted on the LAV platform, minus some trucks. Pretty cool.

 

[PrairieFella]

(More pictures of LAV 6 Mk 2)

The internal can holders is certainly...interesting. Looks like there's a shit on of sensors around the vehicle.

https://nitter.net/m_Janelle/status/1928439519084212321#m

 

[FJAG]

Anyone have any impression that ammo carrier?

Based on the picture and without a more detailed description, I don't like it. The pop the top and fold down side panels make me think that it is nothing more than an expensive, glorified logistics vehicle. I can see the value of that in restocking the ammo vehicle but fail to see how it provides ammunition to the main gun without exposing the crew. You could probably get two or more LVMs with protected cabs for the price of one ACSV-ammo to do the same job.

 

[MilEME09]

Based on the picture and without a more detailed description, I don't like it. The pop the top and fold down side panels make me think that it is nothing more than an expensive, glorified logistics vehicle. I can see the value of that in restocking the ammo vehicle but fail to see how it provides ammunition to the main gun without exposing the crew. You could probably get two or more LVMs with protected cabs for the price of one ACSV-ammo to do the same job.

and really those panels likely only block small arms fire, and would be useless against AT, which to your point just makes it an over priced truck, and while it may be able to survive a mine strike, it still would be taken out and would be over priced for a simple logistics vehicle

 

[PrairieFella]

Based on the picture and without a more detailed description, I don't like it. The pop the top and fold down side panels make me think that it is nothing more than an expensive, glorified logistics vehicle. I can see the value of that in restocking the ammo vehicle but fail to see how it provides ammunition to the main gun without exposing the crew. You could probably get two or more LVMs with protected cabs for the price of one ACSV-ammo to do the same job.

Seems like a few disappointments in the LAV family. Weird ammo truck, pop open mortar variant (if the picture is accurate) and the ever-fucked LAV LRSS. Let's hope the LAV 6 mk 2 is better since I'm sure we'll get them haha.