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Trump administration 2024-2028

Brad Sallows said:
People think that by comparing contemporary figures to Nazis, or contemporary events to the Holocaust, they're accentuating the badness of contemporary figures. What they achieve is to desensitize people to what Nazis really were, and what the Holocaust really was.
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One could reasonably describe some current US activities as efforts towards ethnic cleansing, but there is no genocide going on.

Fortunately, I don’t see anyone making comparisons to the Holocaust. It’s just you trotting it out as an absurd strawman to beat-up on.

Nazis were still Nazis in 1936 when there had not yet been a Holocaust. Your insistence that there must be a Holocaust before comparisons can be drawn is a reduction to the absurd. It is an avoidance of critical examination.
 
McG said:
One could reasonably describe some current US activities as efforts towards ethnic cleansing, but there is no genocide going on.

Fortunately, I don’t see anyone making comparisons to the Holocaust. It’s just you trotting it out as an absurd strawman to beat-up on.

Nazis were still Nazis in 1936 when there had not yet been a Holocaust. Your insistence that there must be a Holocaust before comparisons can be drawn is a reduction to the absurd. It is an avoidance of critical examination.
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From 1935-39 could it be argued that a form of ethnic cleansing against the Jews was put it in place. The creating of an environment where day to day living was so bad and restrictive that the only really option was to attempt to emigrate?
 
PrairieFella said:
There's only so many times you can walk like a duck and talk like a duck before youre probably a duck. White nationalists are at all level of the Trump administration and as shown by the young republicans scandal, they have probably been thoroughly infiltrated by fascists. Its happening right before our eyes Brad.
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I lived through the 1980s when Reagan's supposed televangelist buddies were going to persuade him to bring about Armageddon. I'm well-insulated from overwrought panic which is really just politics dialed up to 11 by the factions out of power.
 
PrairieFella said:
Problem is over 20 million people lose their healthcare if those subsidies collapse. I laud Dems for treating that as their bridge too far, just as I thunk theyre idiots for not using their previous complete control of the legislative and executive branch to find a way to stabilize this file. Crazy to watch the greatest country on Earth shut their government down and stop providing food for 40 million so they can effectively dismantle the healthcare for 20 million. Grim.
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The subsidies in question are temporary subsidies, passed as a pandemic mitigation measure, which by definition were planned to expire. If there's a problem with this, the fault lies with the Biden administration and Congress of that time for not passing permanent subsidy increases.

It is beyond idiotic to frame discussions about temporary measures as if the government in office at the time they expire is responsible for withdrawing something. Something with an end date was and is meant to end. We went through the same idiocy when LPC and NDP supporters bitched because the Harper government did not indefinitely extend Paul Martin's "fix for a generation (10 years)". If parties pass these things thinking they're going to one day use them as a political cudgel, it just makes them more cravenly opportunistic.

SNAP funding appropriations are a Congressional responsibility. The House has passed a CR; the Senate with a working majority but not a working supermajority has tried (10, 12, 13 - reports vary) times to advance the CR to a floor vote. Democrats (mostly - Rand Paul objects that there is still too much spending) are blocking a floor vote with the legislative filibuster - that's the one they claim is an anti-democratic fossil whenever they hold a working Senate majority. People ought to get over their Trump obsession for at least long enough to correctly lay blame for all this on Democrats where it belongs.
 
Brad Sallows said:
I lived through the 1980s when Reagan's supposed televangelist buddies were going to persuade him to bring about Armageddon. I'm well-insulated from overwrought panic which is really just politics dialed up to 11 by the factions out of power.
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Wait, have we changed subject back to Regimental Honourary Colonels and Senates again? ;)
 
McG said:
One could reasonably describe some current US activities as efforts towards ethnic cleansing, but there is no genocide going on.

Fortunately, I don’t see anyone making comparisons to the Holocaust. It’s just you trotting it out as an absurd strawman to beat-up on.
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It would be a neat inversion if the people making Nazi and fascist comparisons - "see, this could one day become that if it goes on longer and becomes much, much bigger" - could make their own excesses a "strawman". Everyone from "this is starting to look like fascism" to "it's Hitler!" is part of that idiocy.
McG said:
Nazis were still Nazis in 1936 when there had not yet been a Holocaust. Your insistence that there must be a Holocaust before comparisons can be drawn is a reduction to the absurd. It is an avoidance of critical examination.
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It is wildly improbable that the US is even going to get to 1933.
 
Brad Sallows said:
Shades of "I'll be damned if my regiment becomes a laundry unit on my watch"?
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Oh yeah... I'm sure they're all in the battle prep stage right now...

gun suiting up GIF
 
Revenge firing... seems popular these days

FBI fires top official amid Kash Patel’s outrage over reports of agency jet use​

Patel reportedly became furious after revelation he flew to visit girlfriend as agency fires official who oversees fleet

A top FBI official with 27 years standing has reportedly been fired by the bureau after its director, Kash Patel, became enraged by press stories revealing he had used a government jet to travel to see his girlfriend sing the national anthem at a wrestling match.

Steven Palmer, who had worked at the bureau since 1998, was fired as head of the FBI’s critical incident response group which is responsible for handling major security threats as well as overseeing the agency’s fleet of jets. He was the third head of the unit to be dismissed since Patel became the second Trump administration’s FBI director in February.


Bloomberg Law, which broke the story, said that three unnamed sources had expressed astonishment at the sacking given that Patel’s flight schedules were fully public and trackable on websites. A day after her performance, Patel himself had reposted photos showing him together with his girlfriend, country singer Alexis Wilkins, on his X account.

According to Bloomberg, Patel had become furious over stories published after the event about his use of the FBI jet to go on the date with Wilkins. Soon after, Palmer had been told he could resign instantly or be fired.

The dismissal was made official on Friday.

www.theguardian.com

FBI fires top official amid Kash Patel’s outrage over reports of agency jet use

Patel reportedly became furious after revelation he flew to visit girlfriend as agency fires official who oversees fleet
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
daftandbarmy said:
Revenge firing... seems popular these days

FBI fires top official amid Kash Patel’s outrage over reports of agency jet use​

Patel reportedly became furious after revelation he flew to visit girlfriend as agency fires official who oversees fleet

A top FBI official with 27 years standing has reportedly been fired by the bureau after its director, Kash Patel, became enraged by press stories revealing he had used a government jet to travel to see his girlfriend sing the national anthem at a wrestling match.
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On a lighter note, it hasn’t got to the point of falling out of a window. Yet.
 
Cloud Cover said:
I challenge him to find it on a map.
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Oh, he knows where Africa is... this happened during his past term in office:

DoD’s Report on the Investigation into the 2017 Ambush in Niger​


On October 4, 2017, four U.S. Army Green Berets and four Nigerien soldiers were killed in action during an ambush of a joint U.S.-Nigerien mission outside the village of Tongo Tongo, Niger. On May 11, 2018, the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) released a detailed video-graphic depiction of the ambush and an eight-page summary of a much longer classified report on the events leading up to, during, and immediately following the ambush. Given the new information provided by DoD, the public has the opportunity to consider the risks U.S. forces were operating under, as well as the lessons DoD has derived from the events and the recommendations the investigation generated.

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DoD’s Report on the Investigation into the 2017 Ambush in Niger

The events in Niger demonstrated that the so-called by, with, and through approach to counterterrorism still exposes U.S. troops to risk.
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Tomorrow is election day in a number of contests. Current indicators are that the Democrat contenders are in a good position. Trump's outbursts will be all the more entertaining!
 
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