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I think there's a discussion to be had about conduct versus performance issues. I'm generally inclined to treat the latter more harshly, since deliberates choices are made to engage in wrongdoing, rather than someone simply screwing up, even if the consequences of any particular screw up might...

Civilian calls boss an idiot: gets fired immediately Military member does same: "Why is she being put on remedial measures? She hasn't been convicted of insubordination! <insert sounds of misplaced indignation>" Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, that does raise a point. The charges...

The criminal justice system has a presumption of innocence. Neither I, nor anyone else here, is the criminal justice system incarnate, and we're thus free to come to our own conclusions, without relying upon the results of a rather flawed process. Even when it comes to more official matters...

People are free to practice their own religions as they see fit. Nothing at all is being watered down simply by not having the government promoting it. Eliminating unfair and unreasonable promotion of religion is not doing harm to it. It's just bringing things back to neutral. No religion ever...

Tolerant and accommodating of each individual's religious needs is not compatible with government promoting any particular religion. Or religion at all. No harm done to you. You didn't consider it harmful. Not all people share your opinion on the matter.

Or alternatively, let's get rid of the problematic "prayer at what should be non-religious ceremonies" aspect of things, so we don't feel the need to.

Sure. And said pedanticism should be limited to occasions where it's appropriate. This isn't a courthouse. There's no reason to limit ourselves solely to the technical definitions of words as used therein. It's a message board on the internet; the common parlance is perfectly suitable here...

I would refer you to the title of this thread. We've been talking about sexual assault in general this entire time. This is not a thread specifically about General Whalen.

I am not making a legal argument here. I am merely saying that's now how people commonly use the English language. Again, if you've got a better word to use, please let us know. But I'm absolutely not going to start refraining from forming my own opinions unless there's a court judgement that...

Ehhhh... this to me seems like an overtly pedantic argument based upon occupational specific usage of a term, while ignoring the actual common definition / usage of said term. Whether or not someone did that thing is a matter of objective truth; did that person actually do that thing or not...

For what it's worth, the comment was primarily with regard to the other examples; in laws, military funerals, etc. I probably should have quoted to make that clearer. My bad. I probably would grant it for a pet's death; for the same reason that I would grant (and do currently recommend)...

I swear, it's like some people think that if you approve a leave pass, you're required to pay out their salary for that time personally. I cannot fathom someone's initial reaction being to deny stuff like this.

Eh, I don't think we're in any violent disagreement here. He's arguing that there's still a role to be played by the Chaplains even without leading prayers; I certainly haven't been disagreeing here. The religious aspects are the least important parts of their job. The role the play beyond that...

Rory Fowler's take on the issue.

I really wish people would bloody well stop pretending like we can't take that part of a Chaplain Officer's role and responsibilities and give it to someone else. The Padres do that because that's their job. That's why we keep them around. Even if we eliminate Chaplains as a trade, that job...

Because that's the current structure of how we employ social workers. Which wouldn't be how they'd all be employed if we engaged in a "replace padres with social workers" program. The God squad indeed only spends a very small portion of their time on the God part, and that's the only part...

I've heard people say this, but I still gotta ask why? If we hired on an equal number of social workers, and put them in the same positions that were formerly held by Chaplains, having them do the same roles that the Chaplains currently do (minus the explicitly religious stuff of course)...

Remembrance Day is about the fallen, but it's for the living. Because the fallen aren't there. That's kind of the point. Remembrance of the loss. None of which requires any degree of faith in any higher power, nor praying to the same. And I still stand by my assertion that it's wholly...

Certainly that absolute power wouldn't possibly corrupt absolutely, if allowed to be wielded!

They play an important role constitutionally, only because they haven't attempted to exercise it. Because if they ever attempted to do so, well, things would go wonky as we attempted to navigate exactly how to go about completely ignoring the demands of some puffed up jackanape who seems to...