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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_layton I'm not sure how accurate wikipedia is, but if it's true I think Jack should take a lesson from his grandfather.

There's a perfect example of what will happen for all those who want NATO / Canada to leave.

Will do, fitness is my major concern right now, gotta break my lazy streak.  :P Thanks for the advice, now I have something to look forward to in September.

Well all my papers are in, they were being faxed to RMC last week. So here goes. What's the average time before I'll hear something back?

Whats great is that V2007 can argue that the whole situation is caused by the US. They propped up the Mujaheddin during the civil war. That's not quite right. It wasn't a civil war, it was the SOVIET invasion of Afghanistan. Perhaps you conveniently forgot that? The only reason anyone went there...

Well, goodluck and godspeed to all of them.

ha ha that's a hilarious story  ;D

Flip, I agree with you there. This is a global problem. It happened a few times throughout history that Islamic militants (well more like states) took over huge tracts of land. Like the Moors, who controlled Spain, the Mamelukes who took over a chunk of the middle east and Egypt, and the Ottoman...

Flip, Yes I know we have a vested interest in the stability of all states... (values based foreign policy - i knew there was a word for it somewhere lol was looking for it couldn't recall) The point I was really trying to make is that morally, we should be there, and we would do the same for a...

hahaha I won't, I realize it was far from perfect! Just thought it would illustrate the point that Danjanou made much clearer. We (the more fortunate countries) do have an obligation to help those who need it. This isn't colonialism or "white man's burden" as was previously stated. It's just...

Greymatter I know the violence is much worse, I was just trying to paint in a day to day setting. Basically just to prove that if someone told you not to help Afa Ghani from getting his ass beat everyday, you'd think they were a little strange lol. But feel free to sub in egg for RPG and machine...

WARNING: The following paragraph is silly: I  was thinking about this debate this morning. I thought maybe if we put in simpler terms it will be easier to see why those who support the mission do so. Let's say you live in a nice neighborhood. You drive a BMW, go to the gym and have big biceps...

Good riddance to that guy. I hope we can still debate with Valcartier though, they actually make points rather then going on about how awful western society is etc.

Since i was dubbed crass I'll try to explain my comments further, and I'll keep it formal. My remark about your computer - mostly saying that capitalism is probably why you even own one, but disregard it. My remark about the totalitarian / Adam Smith post - Just mostly for a bit of good fun...

Your right! I've been so misguided! Clearly kingdoms ruled by the will of one guy were the way to go! I mean obviously the medieval age was called the dark age because of poor lighting, nothing else. And the age of enlightenment was called as such because it lightened the weight of gold. Yup...

noname guy, I can't wait for reality to hit you and your "comrades" like a freight train. I don't even think anything you said was worth debating. You just ramble off into a pile of garbage. At least Valcartier2007 could hammer out some replies that weren't stereotypical (i want to say...

I'd like to hear Valcartier2007's take on this, please.

Let me get out the world's smallest violin for a child rapist...yeah right! Enjoy the cat o' nine tails pal, you'll ONLY have 7 years to reminisce about it.

What a pile of rubbish. Just because a few anti-war people were offended...it says "support our troops", not "support the war". This is the same reason we can't say Merry Christmas anymore, because 10 or 15 people who take everything to heart find the time to protest. Just complete garbage...

Oh I'll definitely go with what the RC tells me, I was just wondering if anyone had any similar experiences? (Guess I should have phrased that better) Thanks