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    Replacing the Subs

    Since TKMS totally updated their original yard and bought a 2nd construction facility, the production rate of Type 212 CD boats for Norway & Germany has ++ increased and they are ahead of schedule.
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    Replacing the Subs

    Both subs have LIB technology TKMS explicitly states they will meet the RCN delivery schedule
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    Replacing the Subs

    What’s your sales pitch for a boat with a design optimized for the Retaliation Strike Mission, that has an older generation AIP technology, is not optimized for stealth or cold water operations, has a VLS capability that is not required or even desired by the RCN, is built in yards with a...
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    Replacing the Subs

    If Korea proposes their Batch 3 boat, as speculated, they won’t make the delivery schedule either There is so little publicly available data about the tech specs and mission capabilities of the the two possible proposal boats it really is all about speculating at this time
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    Truth.
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    Replacing the Subs

    Still need almost twice as many sailors for the KSS III compared to the 212CD. And if we decide to go with Blue/Gold double crew system that challenge gets much bigger. The RCN is struggling now to train enough sailors for the current surface fleet. Training new submariners will be a...
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    Replacing the Subs

    In related news, a significant/biggest constraint the RCN has acquiring new subs isn’t the delivery date for new boats . . . It is the ability to generate a boatload of newly trained crews for these new boats The 2x crew size for the KSS III boats must be a significant factor in the...
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    Replacing the Subs

    Seems a bit odd the RCN would be considering a submarine that has a significant portion of its cost, technology, crew requirement and maintenance load devoted to a dozen missile launching tubes that Canada has no requirement for. The RCN has a requirement for land attack that can be met with...
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    The KSS III is bigger but also has almost a twice the crew size compared to a 212 CD. Bigger hotel loading. And a considerable amount of that tonnage and space is devoted to those ballistic missile tubes Patrol durations are not publicly available but are likely very close to each other.
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    Replacing the Subs

    TKMS has development an antiairfaft missile system that is 4 packed into a standard 21 inch torpedo tube for the Type 21x family of subs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDAS_(missile)
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    Replacing the Subs

    Why would Canada want to buy a missile boat like the KSS III? What would the RCN do with subs designed primarily for the strategic retaliation mission?
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    Replacing the Subs

    If the KSS III is selected. Other contenders like the 212CD have tube launched NSM cruise missiles for Sportsnet both land and surface ship attack missions Seems odd to buy a sub with a technology . . . . Ballistic missile launch . . . that is not explicitly required by the CSPS SOR
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    Replacing the Subs

    Is there any requirement in the CPSP for the ability to launch ballistic missiles?
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