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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Kevin well put. Even Old Man Turtle would agree.  The question is, how do we get them back on the bus. Going  back to the article about the US troops in the FOB getting mortared and not being allowed to fire back, even though they had PID. Again, when will troops say that if they dont have the...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    I agree.  The names I have heard to describe him....
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Again the problem lies within both the Federal/Provincial Governments and Joe public.  Anythign CSIS releases to the public is automatically taken as a joke.  Why?  Because 1-2 announcements ahve not been backed up. IE, MPs under foreign influence.  The RCMP has been treated a s a joke since the...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Even if the taliban attacked canadian cities, unfortunatley the current political correctness/human rights identidy crisis that most Canadians are going through would result in them being given citizenship and honoured.  Well, thats a possibility.  However, Al Quaeda may attack using Taliban...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Apollo, I have to disagree on your last point about bombs in buses etc.  Bevause that isnt happening is by no means an indicator of winning.  It is simply an indicator of their patience and resolve.  Sooner or later the general public and security services are going to get lax again, people will...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    All, regardless of personal feelings and opinions, regardless of experiance in Afghanistan or lack of, time to get this tread back on track.  The use of firepower and the damage it causes is a double edged sword.  It needs to be discussed in depth.  We all have our own opinions on it.  Those...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Petamocto, sure, right now there are no problems with recruiting and yes we have world class kit.  But how many of those men and women join today to fight in Afghanistan tomorrow?  With no war the recruit numbers will fall, of this I am sure.  And our world class it will deteriorate over time. ...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Sure do hope I can entertain you.  Pretty sad individual you are if that is how you get your thrills and laughs, but every person is different I guess. Meanwhile, as you carry on full of bravado and a yearning for glory, realists will begin to figure out how we deal with the military in 2012...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Its not a defeatist attitude,  it is reality.
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    As I am sure in your universe you are the greatest captain of all time. well done to you :salute:
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Teeps, glad you want to win the war...big thumbs to you.  Now, given the fact that it won't be won, especially with the enemy emboldened by our politicans and media, what do you propose? Apparently, according to some, holding ground is not the answer, nor his the hearts and mind concept. ...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    We have more troops on the ground than ever before but we are still playing whack-a-mole.  The only locals we have 'won over' are those lining their pokets.  The tide is not changing in our favour.  Politicians in all NATO countries sold us out long ago.  We lost this war, or whatever you want...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    We have more troops on the ground than ever before but we are still playing whack-a-mole.  The only locals we have 'won over' are those lining their pokets.  The tide is not changing in our favour.  Politicians in all NATO countries sold us out long ago.  We lost this war, or whatever you want...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Ten X more of us, and we still cant beat them at their own game, interesting!
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Furthermore, buds, we arent exactly beating them at their game this time, eh.  Seems the tables have turned...buds!
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Ralph, has living among the populace helped the situation at all?  Record numbers of IED finds, brazen, although fruitless, attacks by the enemy on major installations, casulties from IEDs still being inflicted.  They arent exactly clamouring at the front gate to give info and locations.. Sure...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    Lets face it, those out there every day hunting the enemy have a vastly different view of the war than those who are not.  Its one thing to look at graphs and charts on effects and plans and options and all kinds of other pretty colours, its another thing to deal with the people and culture...
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    Petraeus - Re-visiting NATO ROE in Afghanistan

    War is war is war is war is war.  WWI...WWII...Korea...Afghanistan and so on.  Give the troops what they need to win the fight when the fight is being fought.  I agree with the fact that most of them would stab us in the back as soon as we showed it to them. From being there in 06 and again in...
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    Patrol Report

    Generic one should do for now.  I will modify it as required by my chain of command.  Thanks.
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    Patrol Report

    Anyone got a copy of the latest greatest patrol report we are using?
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