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    Replacing the Subs

    From a build perspective I think SK is the better choice as well. I think there is also more opportunity to work with SK to consistantly make it more stealthy with a higher indiscretion rate over time. There is some room to grow there. Canadian underwater tech and access to NATO submarine...
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    Replacing the Subs

    He's aware. He's forgotten more things about ASW than most experts know. ;)
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    Yah the wooden hull challenge. We were doing a "fire exercise" (water balloon fight with another YAG) using the manual fire pump at the stern. Me and another guy ripped the pump right out of the deck with our over exuberant use of the equipment. Deck was soft underneath. The Engineering was...
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    Replacing the Subs

    This guy gets it. Nuclear delivery methods through line. Really it can go either way if you were to follow this plan. Canada already has an existing relationship with the German navy with regards to sharing technology (JSS is a german design, Germany is using CMS 330 in their next Air Defence...
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    Replacing the Subs

    Depending on how you define bureaucrats, some are quite good at their job and do their best for Canada. A lot of the procurement staff both military and civilian have a lot of knowlege. The fact that they narrowed down the submarine choice to two A List options is good. At this point you can't...
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    Our North - SSE Policy Update Megathread

    Norwegians asking one of our local reservists "How cold have you operated in" "Um about -40 Cs" "The arctic gets really cold doesn't it" "That was in Meaford, Ontario, we were no where near the arctic" Norway gets winter, they don't get Arctic. Their Arctic has trees.
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    Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

    Hanwha Ocean is stating we would have four boats by 2035, TKMS is saying first delivery 2035 (but also stating they could build faster if asked). IOC is supposed to be '37 according to the plan. The RCN is quite happy to work towards an accelerated timeline, the sooner the better.
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    Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

    Happens with old people (I include myself in that label) and military folks in general. We've all been around long enough to get burned badly by hope and wishful thinking. Back to the topic at hand. Rumour going around is that the submarine contract will be awarded by end of 2026, two years...
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    Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

    Brandon was my first ship. Seems like there is something in my eye. Here's hoping that they look at those names for the submarines. That's just me being a biased softie though.
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    Replacing the Subs

    Maybe? Hence why I agree with a focus shifting from advocating for ship programs to people programs. That's a big concern for sure. Sailors joining today will be Master Sailors and PO2's in 10 years. Infrastructure is more of money and contracting thing, its easier in a lot of ways than...
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    Replacing the Subs

    If there are two more JSS in the pipeline then there will be lots of data. JSS2 is scheduled for '27, Polar class '32, there are 16 MSV's on the list they haven't started welding yet (long lead for 6 have been ordered), OOSV as well. Unless they re-gig the schedule then JSS 3-4 would be 10...
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    Replacing the Subs

    Yes, 30 days isn't a problem. JSS was expected to be the core of a 4 ship task group. You're asking a question that has a million contingencies. How thirsty are the RCD's? Do they need a lot of ammo due to combat conditions? Are they just on ASW patrol running DE's and not use GT's? What...
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    Replacing the Subs

    Singapore already has agreements with Canada in place since Harpers time, for RAMPs and other logistical tasks (casualty extraction/care etc...). Not a bad choice, assuming those agreements haven't expired. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a summer season proper arctic port at this point...
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    Replacing the Subs

    Yes, I'm hearing two more JSS are going to be proposed by Seaspan (four is the correct number of JSS IMHO). I don't know if this is a Davie style unsolicited proposal or not. It also might be a build them for the USN proposal type of thing (wrong thread I know). That's an exciting/interesting...
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    Replacing the Subs

    The capability is a stealthy survivable platform that can fire ballistic missiles that will be able to destroy NK command bunkers. I'm telling you retaliatory strike is not a mission set. It's a news organization shorthand for "revenge". The engineering definition is a propulsion system that...
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    Replacing the Subs

    Don't forget that Coast Guard facilities now belong to DND. Expect those jetties and facilities to now be in play for co-location of resources. There has already been public discussion on this by GOFO's. I'm sure the CCG get a vote but something to consider.
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    Replacing the Subs

    We're adults on the forum (or at least pretend we are). This is not an acceptable post. You disagree you do so respectfully with facts or a different opinion.
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    Replacing the Subs

    Not a mission that exists in real life. This isn't Helldivers or XCOM (where that mission exists, only in video games). I think your either referring too a second strike capability (which is a WMD concept) or misundertanding that the KSS III VLS ballistic missiles are actually designed to be...
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    Replacing the Subs

    KSS III advantages in this bid: -speed of procurement/build -currently they have more cooperation with domestic industry (that may change) -LI battery technology -larger submarine with longer range -vertical launch capability German advantages in this bid: -NATO doctrine/training for our...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Passageways and flats go different ways in the ship. Passageways go longditudinaly (linking watertight sections) and flats go athwartships (within a watertight section). But mostly we just use the words interchangably and no one bothered to look up the difference. Very few folks know the...
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