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Well, except for 6 Jun '44 :LOL:

My gut feel is the MacKenzie conversions were given up to support the GP Frigate (cost and political will). Hellyer then intervened and siad the NATO ASW bill was too high for the GP Frigate, and more ASW forces were needed. Rather than spend capital on the MacKenzie's, the Navy negotiated the 8...

In 1961 the plan was certainly to have 6 MacKenzies, the last two built as DDHs and the remaining four converted afterwards. The Crowsnest Vol. 13 No. 8 Our Navy June 1961: "A progressive conversion program to the Crusader and the seven St. Laurent class DDEs with helicopter platforms is...

I’m pretty sure the Crowsnest I was reading, circa 1964, said a 6 ship buy, and they were being built at that time. I know for certain it said conversion after delivery. I found all the Crownest’s at the Esquimalt museum online. I’ll see if I can find the right issue again. I am starting to...

Possibly, but weren’t the GPFs the initial plan that actually became the 280s? I don’t think the design of the 280’s resulted from either not modifying the MacKenzie’s or getting rid of Bonnie. What I’ve read is that in the early ‘60s a balanced fleet was view as ASROC on some ships and helos...

I guess that’s what I’m wondering. When they lost the Bonnie, you would think they’d want more small decks. It wasn’t the impending arrival of the 280s, since that was already planned. Or maybe without the Bonnie they didn’t need as many escorts, so they relegated the NacKenzie’s to the...

That’s the obvious, but was it that simple? It was weird the amount of optimism they seemed to have. It was an issue from around 1964, I wonder if they had any idea what the future held…

I didn’t really think that through did I. You would have thought that would have been a joke when we were sailing on them, but I don’t remember it being one. It just comes so naturally… we were bobbing around the ocean on a hot steamer…

Did a search, there is not a generic thread on the steamers… I was reading an old Crowsnest issue (the magazine of the RCN) and it said the six MacKenzies would be built as DDEs and then all 6 converted to DDHs. As it turned out the last two were built as DDHs and then all other 4 never...

I agree in its current form. I was harkening back to a long time ago… the crown only let it exist to provide advice (and again, an oversimplification; the relationship between the house “of the people” and British Royalty has always been… complex). However, what I was trying to say, somewhat...

Rant over… I’ve been avoiding political commentary since the US election, it’s not healthy for my brain.

In my view, here is the saddest part… none of it really matters. I think the “fat, dumb, and happy” rule will continue. Which means the actual elites (not the ones Trump and PP tell you they are) will keep us all just happy enough that we won’t do anything about it. And they keep encouraging...

Fishbone Jones. I think you are correct about Trump. And this is what makes me sad. Anyone who thinks businessmen are natural leaders ignore the reality. Trump does what is best for Trump. If it happens to be best for America then isn’t that fortunate. But he has enabled a turn away from...

When Trudeau first got elected I said something like “it’s not him that concerns, it’s that we haven’t really elected him, but rather the old guard of the Liberal party.” As reprinted ultimately by Butts, Telford, et al. He was just a well known pretty poster boy. Problem is, that old guard not...

For those thinking about the RFA model, have you looked at the state of the RFA lately? They are in the middle of a labour dispute which is quite nasty, and their crewing is abysmal. One of the brand new Tide class (Tiderace) and their only dry stores ship left (Fort Victoria, the others all...

Some lite reading... Copies of Sea King CH124B 12401's CF339 Aircraft Information Record, CF350 Aircraft Transfer and Inspection Record, CF351 Airframe Time and Landing Record, CF355 Aircraft First/Second Level Modification Record, and CF356 Aircraft Third Level Modification Record. Coupling...

Thanks! If it's any help let me worry about all the electronic and lighting bits. We would need to figure out where to hide the wires...

I think you may have missed my last post? Isn't the Air Direction Room directly under the island? I was thinking go up all the way with the island to show the actual radars as well, and cut away the whole inner side of it, and show the Bridge and Fly Co (is that what they called it) as well...

Doing a quick bit of math... The smallest LCDs I know of are 1/2". If a radar console is 18" then that puts the smallest scale 1:36. Assuming the island is about 75', and the air direction room extends out in front of it on 2 deck, that means somewhere around 100', or 3' at 1:36. I'm thinking...

Agree 4. And as Halifax Tar said, our Allies would appreciate it. For instance, the UK is struggling with keeping enough support ships for the carriers, like the (maybe temporary) loss of Fort Victoria. I'd like to see two of them be Karel Doormans... but that ship has probably sailed. Best to...