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Helsinki is going to do 30% of the work, while Davie’s yard in Quebec will take on the remaining 70%. Having an experienced icebreaking yard do over a quarter of the work for you will definitely give you and advantage over Seaspan doing everything from scratch. Davie claims they can deliver...

Partnering with Saab in order to get aboard their Next Generation Fighter platform is picking one of the worst horses in Europe to bet on and attaching yourselves at the hip. Saab has zero experience building advanced next generation aircraft, let alone 6th generation stealth aircraft. They...

Yes, I do recall hearing about him visiting the Japanese yards however, Japan publicly declined to bid and departed the process fairly quickly. The Europeans have some pretty substantial media presence around their domestic defense industries, I find it hard to believe that everybody...

Given how religiously rigid Canadian procurement typically is to being "open and fair", it comes off to me as very strange that the head of the RCN specifically took time out of his schedule to publicly tour only one out of many bidders in a very important contract. If that isn't a sign, I'm not...

This is what I have gleamed from @FSTO speaking on this elsewhere on the forums, but there was a variety of issues at hand that made the committee go another direction with the CSC. I do not think its ultimately fair to say they are cowardly or lazy, but some hills aren't worth dying on for what...

Sucker, Chub, Chubsucker, Hog Sucker, Minnow and Mummichog are great choices. I have heard exactly the opposite, that there is a large Korean slant especially with some of the ITB packages we are being offered. Topshee personally touring both Korean yards publicly but seemingly not doing the...

The "Tribal" namesakes were specifically rejected for use on the CSC program due to the wide variety of issues that comes with trying to encompass such a diverse and historically sensitive into a comprehensive class. If we didn't use them on largest and most capable surface combatant class in...

There has been nothing to indicate publicly that Canada is unserious about this program, especially given the multi-year windup that has been ongoing around it. When somebody comes to you asking for a once in a decade deal and you scoff at them, don't be surprised when they walk away. This is...

Noah seems to be right from what I can gather, the CPSP is looking like it will end up being a repeat of the P-8 Poseidon procurement. If Germany is so flush with current customers and future customers are seemingly lining up down the street, I do not see much point in trying to elbow our way...

It is increasingly evident to me that the Germans are acting incredibly greedily regarding foreign submarine offers, clinging on for dear life while continuing to court more and more business. Germany has a substantial order book already established and keeps trying to add to it, seemingly with...

Navantia are fairly well known for doing some truly horrible work on various vessels for foreign clients and domestic ones, I can see why Canada isn’t chomping at the bit to partner with them for their seemingly lacklustre design.

Putting a small reactor on a conventionally powered submarine is the worst of both worlds, you get all of the issues of having a reactor onboard without the true boons provided by a full SSN powerplant. This has been explored by Canada before, but it was never a good idea.

If Canada had the option to license produce various Korean weapons systems domestically and potentially even work with the Koreans on future projects/developments, it largely solves the logistical issues I might have previously had with using non-NATO standard/US standard equipment. With recent...

Given how few realistic and viable options remain alongside the blistering pace of the program, a sole source contract seems inevitable.

Canadian Govt will be requesting no one-on-one meetings with potential bidders after reviewing the responses to the CPSP RFI, which closes today. Almost sounds like an option is already picked at this point?

With all due respect to Norway, the 7 icebreaker order and maintenance contracts that Davie has is far more important to Canada than fulfilling their frigate order. Let the nations with capability take that order, especially when we can’t count on Norway to come help us in the coastal or Arctic...

Davie hasn't really built anything substantial from the ground up in quite awhile, not withstanding their slapdash Asterix conversion. Unlike Irving as well, they haven't had any work already done at this point to build expertise within the yard in preparation for a major build like this. The...

Important context is that Norway is looking for not just ships, but for a long term partner in operation, maintenance and development. They want to procure a design of basically the same specifications of another foreign Navy and enter into an agreement to effectively operate in conjunction, not...

FSTO mentioning their deployment 30 years ago should help reinforce what these kind of trips abroad can actually do for people, who are the backbone of our various forces themselves. Some Canadians never get to realistically go abroad, and getting to go abroad to places throughout South America...

A few points I would put forward: - Training personnel and providing experience at sea, AOPS is a new class and getting serious deployments with substantial length is very valuable. Personnel generation for the class is important as it had been previously sidelined due to a lack of qualified...