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    Operational Service Medals?

    Just the timing really. The fact that this is happening almost 70 years after the fact raises some eyebrows. IMO, it's an incredibly slippery slope and sets a precedent for other WWII groups who will want some sort of special recognition for their particular contributions. From what I've been...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    and out of left field: http://home.mytelus.com/telusen/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?ArticleID=news/capfeed/national/19190723.xml&CatID=National
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    Operational Service Medals?

    Official DH&R reply: "Regrettably, there's not much to say except that a proposal was forwarded to the Chancellery of Honours at Rideau Hall for consideration by the Government Honours Policy Committee at Privy Council Office (PCO) to have the NATO medal for Operation UNIFIED PROTECTOR in Libya...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    I personally think DH&R is doing some good work. They've published a considerable amount of literature to educate people and they've instituted a GSM to capture all the "forgotten" missions. Just look at all of those medals posters, books on the CD, annual reviews, and info pamphlets. Also, the...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    Interesting Quote: http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/75029-recognize-sacrifice-soldiers-yes-spare-extravagance Really? Could not be produced in time? Wonder where this fact came from?
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    Operational Service Medals?

    SSM isn't going away. They still award the Ranger bar, Alert bar, and NATO bar, although its now more difficult to meet the NATO bar requirements as they've been revised.
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    Walts, posers & wannabes (merged)

    that was nuts
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    Operational Service Medals?

    ...an SSM would be an interesting route, although it requires a min of 180 days to qualify. Canada will accept the NATO OUP medal for wear, but there will be disappointed recipients who I am sure will be writing memos to institute a GCS/GSM or OSM. I bet 10 years from now there will be a...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    Possibly, since 30 days is the req for the GCS. Multiple ships sailing under Op Altair qualified for the GCS-SWA, yet they're operating well outside the effective range of AK-47s? But trust me, for Op Mobile it's going to be a NATO medal for all which will make awarding much easier, if anything.
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    Operational Service Medals?

    Food for thought: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/06/02/ns-hmcs-charlottetown-rockets.html
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    Operational Service Medals?

    Well, a Canadian was in charge, so that might be abit of a "snub". I bet most participating nations award their own medal AND accept the NATO medal for wear. Canadians don't accept the NATO ISAF medal, so its not like we accept every NATO medal. (Brits accept, but cannot wear the ISAF...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    CEFCOM: Roto 0 (17 March–18 August 2011): Task Force Charlottetown Roto 1 (19 August–31 October 2011): Task Force Vancouver Looks like both ships meet the 30-day req.
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    Operational Service Medals?

    Does anyone know many days the VAN participated in Op Mobile? CEFCOM says: "Joined SNMG2, tasked to Task Force Endeavour 15 November 2011 Departed Joint Operational Area 10 January 2012" So while they may not qualify for the 30-day minimum for the NATO OUP Libya medal, they will potentially...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    Agreed, especially since NATO seems to be done with designing unique ribbons for each mission and are continuing to award either Article5 or non Article5 ribbons with whatever mission bar. Potentially you may have a CF member with a row of identical medals/ribbons with just different mission...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    I'm not up on the Navy stuff anymore, but I think there's some confusion with the what medals to award for navy ops relating to the "War on Terrorism", since some ships got the NATO Article-5 medal while others got the GCS-SWA or SWASM. Maybe someone on this forum can clarify.
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    Operational Service Medals?

    I got word from DH&R that a proposal was forwarded to the Chancellery of Honours for consideration by the Government Honours Policy Committee at Privy Council Office (PCO) to have the NATO medal for OUP in Libya approved for wear by Canadians.  They are now currently awaiting PCO...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    South-West Asia Service Medal without Afghanistan bar Interim Staging Team (IST), Istanbul, Turkey 18 Oct 05 - 30 Jul 06 Strategic Airlift Det, Ramstein, Germany 01 Oct 01 - 16 Aug 03 Task Force Tampa, Florida, USA 11 Sep 01 - 29 Aug 03 Strategic Lines of Communications (LOC) Dets, USA and...
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    Operational Service Medals?

    I dont think the issue with the GCS/GSM is inside versus outside the wire, it's more about inside versus outside the country where the hostilities are taking place.
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    Operational Service Medals?

    What's nice about GCS/GSM is that they are produced by the mint, engraved with the recipients name, and bear the symbology of our head of state. While "a medal is a medal", an award emanating from the Crown of Canada is more desirable than an award from an international organization that is...
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