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Update on my boss, she did the FORCE test this morning but failed the sand bag drag.  She told be that she had like 5 metre to go but the bag you carry in your arm was getting low and she dropped it.  With a little more training i think she'll be able to pass it.  Which leads me to my next...

Don't give up, my nefew finally was accepted as a pilot and started at RMC a couple of weeks ago.

Keep in mind that alrhough the pld may be more due to the housing cost i'm pretty sure you won't end up with more money in your pocket.

CANFORGEN 138/13 CMP 057/13 211154Z AUG 13 2014 UNIVERSITY TRAINING PLAN FOR NON-COMMISSIONED MEMBERS (UTPNCM) COMPETITION UNCLASSIFIED REFS: A. CFAO 9-13 - UNIVERSITY TRAINING PLAN - NON COMMISSIONED MEMBERS (UTPNCM) B...

A few years ago the power plants diesel generators at CFS Alert were converted to JP8.  One fuel for all applications make life much more easier.

Aren't they kevlar?

Best time for the whole family to learn french!  My wife (girlfriend at the time)  didn't the last time i got posted to Valcartier and she had to learn in a hurry because i was out the door to Haiti 6 weeks after my COS.  Not easy but it can be done.

Or less just give them as many retest as required to ensure that every complete the course :facepalm:

Like someone said before in this or other thread there should be a pt test as part on the recruiting process.  You can't pass, well sorry but you are going to have to try again some other time.  Enough of that spending months on the fat platoon collecting pay and pensionable time.

yes, too many supervisors with blinders on that want to be the good guys.

fully agree with you on the french thing except that you also need to include those folks (anglos) who do their year long in Esquimalt and refuse a posting to la belle province!

now we are going somewhere, same could be said of second lang ability.

extra points on the PER is not the way to go.  I think that the system as it is now (need a pass to have your file on the merit board) is adequate.  So what kind of encentive could we use to motivate our folks to do better?  Bling maybe?  We use to have a badge of some sort on thework dress i...

I agree with you that FORCE is an improvement as the component of the test resemble tasks expected of a soldier.  But, and there's always a but, we are not quite there yet and there is still plenty of room left for improvement. 

I remember when we had one standard for dress...good times! The problem with pencil pushers that make policies is that they are influenced by the flavour of the day.  The pendulum always swing from one end of the spectrum to the other never pausing in the middle to see what might happen.

I guess i should have use the reply button instead of quote.  My mention of proportional testing came earlier in the thread.  The Expres test had different scales based on sex and age, so what i am saying is why not body weight instead which to me would make it a more accurate test.

Lay off the kool-aid people, you are scaring me! :-[

Vern, there's a big difference between 182 and 250. 

like i said, it should be proportional to the body weight of the pers doing the test.  Maybe 1.5. X the pers body weight.  In my case, 270 lbs (1.5. X 180) which is about what i have to do right now.  Someone heavier and hopefully stronger would pull more and someone lighter less.  You don't...

My boss is a 95 lbs female and i think that she may have a hard time with the sand bag drag.  The fireman's carry was done using someone of your own size so why not do the same for that part of the test?  Proportional to one's weight.