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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Not quite. It's part of their lobbying to send the mascot. The Brits do the same. They don't always win. They won't be bitter if they don't win. Business is business. They'd be more upset if they actually spent money on a plant and then we nixed a deal or changed our mind.
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    There are fantastic Swedish products. The CV90. The Archer. The Carl G. The AT4. The NLAW. The BvS10. The T-7 Red Hawk. The Meteor. The GLSDB. The Giraffe radar family. The ARTHUR counter battery radar. But from all of that we might get the two things that are unsuitable for Canada.
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    6th Gen is specifically designed to be a family of systems with somewhere between 2:1 to possibly 6:1 ratio of unmanned to manned. So if you're buying 50 manned, that means 100-300 unmanned. The $200-300M is for the manned jets. Presumably, the CCAs come in at $40-70M.
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    People say this. But what do we have in the CAF inventory that is Bombardier other than the Challengers and Gonzos? Honestly, I wish we actually did more with Bombardier as an actual integrator. Look at the US Army building their entire ISR fleet on Globals. We could actually do some of that.
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    This is the same company and country that still tries to downplay the value of stealth because they didn't have the ability to build truly stealthy aircraft. Can't wait to hear from Saab how AI isn't necessary for 6th gen. I don't expect Saab's 6th gen to be more capable than an F-35. The...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    This is exactly what is being proposed. I don't know why people keep ignoring this part. The rumour is a drastic reduction of the F-35 buy from 88 to 32-40, as per the Globe and Mail leak. A lot of us blue suiters would be more ambivalent if the rumoured cut wasn't so massive. Managing...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Very different in the past. Aircraft were an order of magnitude less sophisticated than today. They were much cheaper. And we crashed them a lot and killed more pilots (who were also cheaper to train). Aircraft themselves are much more productive. A flight of 4-6 F-35s on a strike mission...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    It's one thing to split the fleet. And another to shrink the F-35 order to such a small number (32 frames) so that we end up with basically all the overhead of the fleet but a lot less combat power. 32 jets in the fleet means about 20 jets that are combat coded (to use an American term). 50...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Also, all but guarantees that they'll just re-engine with a Rolls Royce engine.
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    The Trump Administration is pretty much adopting that position. He routinely talks about how allies are worse than adversaries. He just said an interview that the French spy on the US more than the Chinese. And let's be honest, when he's gone there will be another. Long term the Americans...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Would have better if we ordered that one. It's on Saab's website. https://www.saab.com/newsroom/press-releases/2025/saab-signs-contract-for-gripen-ef-with-colombia
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Were we really going to sign a free trade deal with China?
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    I am fairly sure we have an LOI in there for 88. It probably underpins some of the workshare we get. Just because we paid down the first lot, doesn't mean we didn't make soft commitments for more.
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    I am not trying to implying the RCDs aren't highly capable. But the two other versions of the exact same type are both being classified as FFGs in their navies. Beyond our desire to puff up, what makes the RCD categorically different from the other two? I will disagree a tad that the number...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Just a reminder. Here's the article and the contentious bit: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-saab-ceo-michael-johansson-gripen-fighter-jets-defence-canada/
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Y'all keep talking about 65 F-35s. It's not at all clear that we're going to get that. The Globe and Mail article said 30-40. That's why we have a problem. Also, we do care what they think because we share NORAD, Five Eyes and NATO with them. They can easily pull the plug on 2 of 3 of...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Apparently cost and reliability. https://www.twz.com/air/south-korea-has-chosen-its-next-airborne-early-warning-radar-jet
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Some relevant points that discussions never consider: 1) Combat radius when the F-35 only uses internal carriage. 2) Productivity. A handful of F-35s can do what might require a dozen other aircraft. When you have a higher signature, you now need jammers and sweepers out front. And then...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    Yeah. I don't get why people keep thinking that the E-7 is dependent on the US. Literally started without the Americans. It's a great example of a small country innovating (Australia) and then finding a bigger market. The platform is still viable without the US. NATO pulled out because the...
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    The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

    We don't have a problem getting people to walk in through the door dreaming of being pilots. We have a problem with getting enough through training and on to a fleet.
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