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  1. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    The term independent has been discussed here before. It means the ability to control a "dip gang" or equivalent. It's enabled by a mission system that allows battle management vs aircraft positioning (ie the ability to "direct" other platforms). And a dedicated crew member (the TACCO) to do so...
  2. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    It was, I participated in one of the 12 Wing reviews. It was a tweak to the intent, but a major rewrite to format (aka we wrote it down). I forgot, or never knew, how the intent was present in the EH-101 contract.
  3. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    In reality, closer to 4 decades… it flows from ideas about “next gen ASW” in the mid 80s that was part of HELTAS development.
  4. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    Oh, and as an aside, this is what I’ve been bringing up wrt the 60R. Canadian MH ASW doctrine is that the aircraft operates independently from the ship. This has been the case since we lost Bonnie, although the Sea King never was optimized to do it. By contrast the RN Mk-6 was, it it informed...
  5. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    Ok, not disagreeing, although I would argue that is still tactics and employment, but given this has always been an issue, whatever. By doctrine I’ referring to why you have an MH in the first place. What do you understand to be the threat, what resources do you have (meaning national...
  6. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    By the way, all that airworthiness stuff is why Comd RCN can’t do whatever he wants with UAVs, notwithstanding his seeming indications that he thinks he can. Countries don’t like you flying around in their airspace if you haven’t proven you know what you’re doing, and logistic UAVs are kind of...
  7. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    Yes, but there is confusion as to whether MH doctrine is owned by the Air Warfare Center or CFMWC. It’s also not really doctrine at CFMWC, it’s tactics, and it was disfunctional for a long time because it depended on Wing warfare structures, which were non-existent.
  8. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    I think the RCN (and the Canadian Army) are not large enough to take on the management of airworthiness. The Minister of Defence is the responsible Minister for airworthiness of military aircraft, and has directed the CDS to designate the C Air Force as the Airworthiness Authority. The operation...
  9. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    Even if the helicopter was the best ship to shore connector (see daftandbarmy's reply), it's not the best use of an an ASW helicopter. The tend to have very expensive sensors hanging off the bottom of them. Hence why in the UK the ASW/Crowsnest force and the Commando force are two distinctly...
  10. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    There used to be Maj’s position, is it still there? And if so, is it filled?
  11. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    Is there a lesson to be gleaned from the USN’s termination of the Fire Scout program? Are long(‘ish) endurance UAV’s best flown from ashore? Have we reached the point where autonomous ASW is best conducted with unmanned surface or subsurface platforms? Can more smaller single sensor platforms...
  12. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    If they are retired, then a version of this is probably the best course. They are a unique version of the H-92, so are pretty much orphaned now.
  13. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    In a perfect world we would have not even tried to design our own 101, but just bought the Merlin. But we didn’t. However, this option is not without risks. It won’t happen overnight, and it won’t fix the other problems that exist. In my opinion, this doesn’t mean regenerating the fleet, it...
  14. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    Speaks a truth about helicopters… How about we start with cost. The Air Force, driven in part by the Navy, spec’d “the best helicopter in the world.” GOFOs were even saying it was until a couple of years ago. Even when Chrétien said “not the Cadillac “ we didn’t really change the systems spec...
  15. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    Progress? https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2025-07-22-Lockheed-Martin-Reports-Second-Quarter-2025-Financial-Results
  16. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    I can see that. I’m just worried the end result will be the death of Canadian MH.
  17. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    How about a completely different idea? Since the S-92 is no longer supported, in favour of the S-92A, and the 148 is a different beast altogether (fly by wire…), why not “upgrade” the airframe to the S-92A. “Move” the mission system and avionics over to the new airframe, and when possible even...
  18. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    That was, and is, a Cyclone capability. It’s called MPAS (mission preparation and analysis service) and is installed in the ADR. There was an interface to CCS-330 but that has been removed. It’s not just for RMP. It was in addition to Link-11. The Sea King had a much more modest RMP upload and...
  19. Baz

    CH-124 Sea King Historical Thread

    Speaking of independant ops on the Cyclone thread... I've been trying to run to ground what happened to move from carrier controlled ops to "independant" ops in the Sea King around 1970... it's not entirely clear. Three things converged: the loss of Bonnie, and her dedicated control...
  20. Baz

    CH-148 Cyclone Progress

    So, I was answering questions about deck ops on Facebook, and somebody called me an "Attention-W" (I had to look it up) and told me to get a life... but here goes. Independantly, as discussed in the CONOPs, is the ability of the aircraft to make most tactical decisions itself, instead of...
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