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    Bemoaning The Lack of Sports in The CF? [merged thread]

    I don't know where it went but it's sad to see.  I remember more than a few times a guy would put in a memo asking for some time to do pt on their own as well as asking for an annual day as they were relatively high level athletes.  The regiments response?  Said soldier was "randomly" selected...
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    Why aren't Civilian Justice and Mil Justice tied together closer

    If someone were to be sexually assaulted in Toronto and called the Ottawa police to make the complaint....they would be told there is nothing that they can do and to call toronto police.  It's no different when dealing with the MP's.  If it's MP jurisdiction they investigate, if it's not, they...
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    Sexual Assault & Sexual Misconduct in the CF

    I agree and disagree.  Civvie side he would probably get a similar sentence, however he would have also had quite a bit of pre trial (in my experience at least).  Unless I missed it somewhere it doesn't seem like he spent anything more than a bail hearing in pre trial custody....and even then I...
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    Sexual Assault & Sexual Misconduct in the CF

    30 months for 10 sexual assault convictions. The CF keeps touting how they take this stuff seriously....clearly. Ridiculous sentence.
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    CFRG and the broken recruiting system-Split

    They've proven it can be done a lot faster.....when I went through the recruiting process in early 2007 the date from application to leaving for BMQ was just over a week.
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    In Canada you are innocent until proven guilty.  In the courts system the onus is on the Crown to prove your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.  So in reality all the defence has to do is plant a seed of doubt....they don't have to actually prove anything.
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    Although I just said I'm bowing out of this thread I feel I need to answer this one before I go. Go read S. 264 and read the entire section properly......elements of the offence are not met by cyber bullying unless there is a repeat pattern of bullying the same person. As for these provincial...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    In Canada the defence doesn't have to prove that.  The crown has to prove that he WAS in fact in front of the computer. It's fine everyone.....clearly you all have watched more law and order than I...I'll bow out of this one as we are going in circles.
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    Stretching to raise reasonable doubt is what lawyers do... As for say kiddie porn...the offence is possession.  I don't need to prove you physically downloaded.....just that you have it.  Can't compare the two. As for the post from Mcg....I appreciate that post.  I was not aware administrative...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    Yes I understand but what I've been trying to get at is that it's not as easy to prove as one thinks.  Take your post for instance.  On the surface it's clear to all of us reading that George did in fact post what he did.  If you were to pull ISP records and we found the post came from your...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    I understand how the admin system works.  In this case, however, we don't know the troop so for all we know he's a solid guy with no previous problems at his regiment.  If that is the case, and IF he was somehow exonerated in court.....you can't ding someone administratively for creating a page...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    I'm quite aware things like this can and do happen.  Costs you a pretty penny to defend yourself. However in this case it would be through the military justice system so he wouldn't be paying for an attorney.  If there's no reasonable prospect of conviction AND he's being represented by a legal...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    You're right...this isn't my case.  But I've seen cases where the bullying was far more vicious and personal than this and because the elements of the offence were not met...crown wouldn't touch them. There's a reason new laws are being put into place...the main one being that the current...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    I wasn't aware of the case of them posting the woman's address etc....intimidation might stick however if the boots on the ground statement is the only one made....it's too vague and I doubt a conviction in court would result. Criminal harassment, I can assure you through personal experience...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    As stated....nothing about that page is illegal outside the CF. 
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    This is why I stated he would be charged and probably convicted if it goes the way of Summary (yes I know the days of "march the guilty in" are gone....but let's be real here).  If he gets the opportunity to elect CM (which I assume he would as I'm sure it will be more than 1 count of 129) then...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    Agree with you 100% that the conduct falls under 129.  The point I was making is that outside of the CSD/NDA the page, or anything on it, isn't illegal. He will be charged, whether he goes summary or CM is up to him, but as you well know there are legal precedents in place for just how serious...
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    Two CF members arrested in Petawawa over Cpl Bloggins Facebook page

    The fact of the matter is if people don't want their pictures used in any manner, don't post them on Facebook. As for buddy being arrested, I highly doubt he will learn much of a lesson.  His arrest probably consisted of nothing more than being told he's under arrest, searched, and then (since...
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    Military police..training...what its like?

    I stand corrected... Bc, Ontario, and Quebec
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    Military police..training...what its like?

    In all provinces but Ontario and Quebec MPs can lateral. While (for now) you have to redo basic constable training in Ontario.....some services allow you to start as a 1st class Constable....so no...you do not start at the bottom with civvie services (pay wise)
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