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Bingo.  Thank you - you hit the nail on the head. "People need something to reach for" and "many Jnco's and Snr NCO's have done this to great effect ". That's it!  It takes LEADERSHIP - at the lowest possible level - to have troops who are "superior" to the "minimum standard". What's the...

Me either.  Apparently, you and I are members of a dying breed - law abiding citizens.  ;)

That's a pretty interesting and valid point of view, X-mo-1979 - and one that I hadn't considered.  The "minimum" IS the "maximum" - you're quite correct.  So what's the solution?  I seem to recall we tried little "shiny bits" for our uniforms some time ago - it was panned by the troops as the...

It's a real pity that these type of things take place.  I recall (although I don't remember the specifics) fraudulent claims of financial distress which sucked in a whole BUNCH of people a couple of years ago - many cases of husbands reporting "missing wives" after having murdered them - again...

1 Meter = 39 3/8", but who's counting? To be fair - the article did strike me as a translation from original French - so such niceties as "the" HMCS, etcetera were mangled.

Good on him. It's a good thing this didn't happen in Canada.  The store owner would find his behind in jail somewhere, facing multiple charges - starting with "improper storage of a firearm", "possessing an unregistered weapon", and no doubt - "wrongful death".

Absolutely - no argument from me on THAT point (I WAS one of those folks). The point I was making, however, is that during my multiple "Roto Zeroes" (five - four of which I was the Chief Clerk for) I NEVER had to appoint a "Leave Clerk", or "R&R Clerk", or "Welfare Clerk".  To be sure - in some...

During my career - I did a fair number of Roto Zeros - including Kandahar in 2002.  I did two rotos which were NOT "zeros".  Give me a "Zero" every time. On a "Zero" - it is accepted (by both the CoC and the troops) that there will NOT be amenities - on a couple of "zeros", those amenities...

Fair enough, I stand corrected.  I was merely exposing my ignorance regarding the needs of the Air Force and Navy  ;) So - is there enough of a need within the Air Force that it should adopt the BFT for EVERYONE (I'm thinking the maintainers, etcetera) - and I'll leave the non-ship helicopter...

Just to re-emphasize what recceguy said - this is not about chest thumping.  My concern (and it is SPECIFIC to field troops of any trade) is that SOME folk are training only to MEET the MINIMUM standard, and are satisfied with meeting that MINIMUM standard.  And that, in my opinion is foolhardy...

Yeah - but I listen to the REST of CBC One's offerings, too - don't always AGREE with their programs, but I listen.  That's where the "looking askance" part comes in.

It's a disappointment for civilians, too. On the NPR thing - I've been an inveterate listener to CBC since I was a kid, I even purchased a Short Wave radio receiver so that I could listen to "As It Happens" while deployed (long time ago - before the internet, or the "in camp" radio feeds that...

Infanteer:  Thanks for that - I haven't followed the link you provided (I will) - but your synopsis seems to be "on the money". Speaking of money:  popnfresh - what an "outside the box" idea you have there.  Financial recompense for being good at (a part of) your job.  I think there's a germ of...

I agree with what you've said. Can you provide a synopsis or link to the Marine Combat Fitness Test you mentioned?

Bingo! Bingo again! The question in my mind - however - is what those folks who failed were doing there anyway.  This SHOULD have been taken care of prior to deployment. Once again - I'm not suggesting that training take place outside the quite reasonable standards set by the medical folk -...

You're right - and I don't have all the facts available regarding conditions on that particular BFT. The question is - should meeting the "minimum standard" be enough?  Not to mention - should meeting the minimum standard be made "easier" in some way?  (Recognizing that there are valid medical...

I haven't seen it either.  But if Petard gives it such a review, then it's definitely on my "to see" list. By the sounds of Petard's review - I'll probably wait until my wife is working a night shift, and I have a bottle of Rye handy.  I'm not sure I'd want to watch this (as Petard has...

airmich: I think dangerboy has addressed one of your questions - IE, by the time a new Infmn arrives at Bn - he (should) already exceed the minimum standard - thus there's no problem. As far as your personal experience goes regarding being attached to a fd unit - I think your experience...

Sorry to have revived this thread (and moved various posts over to it), and then disappeared.  It was not my intention.  Life has a way of doing that sometimes. I revived this thread with a specific purpose in mind - and that purpose was/is to discuss what MINIMAL fitness standards mean.  I...

OK.  Having (I think) separated the two subjects (I didn't want to do a split, because the original posts were ALSO pertinent to the original thread), there are a couple of posts I want to address. BFT is a MINIMAL standard.  It should be expected that ANY soldier, at ANY time should be able to...