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Yes, but at least a liberal arts student doesn't leave a red stain on your shirt. Uh... Ok maybe in your case Brad, they do. ;D

Agreed with Majoor and GW ( as usual George!  :D) And thanks Majoor for expanding on what is really going on in my limited skull space. ;D As for our military sucking whatever. I guess that is a perception (however wrong) on the part of many of the public. When do we ever hear anything really...

Hey I can dream can't I? Its not like we're not throwing ideas to the wind around here? Most OF THE ideas around here are not going to go much further then this forum as it is, but its still nice to field the ideas. And if hell froze over, I think it would work better then what we have now...

I liked Majors idea of backing off the 105 idea and going with a 90 instead. It would solve many of the problems the MGS is going through at the moment and still be able to fulfill its Infantry direct fire support mission. As we have said many times before it is NOT a tank replacement, so why...

Not that I disagree with you guys on this, but I see Michaels point (I think). Maybe we should try to get what we have already down solid before expanding (back) into areas that are going to cost quite a bit in support and organization. Much like the Tanks, we're not going to be seeing the...

Ah but here is the kicker in my (actually alot of peoples that I agree with) idea. It would require a change in our constitution, but if it happened, it would allow municipalities to collect taxes off their population bases directly instead of having the federal or provincial levels doing so...

Thats a damn good idea. Now however, how much would it add to the cost in men and machines, not to mention being able to support itself (tech wise)?

Agreed. We're as guilty as they are in the fact that we feed at the same trough that they created. No argument there. I'm just saying that until they (as world leaders) decide to do things differently, things will not change significantly. Yes, were a part of the G-8 and thus "leaders". But...

As an aside Majoor. By that last statement, it makes me wonder why then that you didn't like my suggested idea of further downloading certain government responsibilities to the level of municipalities on another thread? It would de-centralized government quite a bit. As for the other statements...

I'm a little confused about the battle awareness of the MGS as well? In fact, I thought its "situational" awareness was next to useless since each turret position only had about 180 degrees of view? Clarification please! Former. Not a bad way of looking at it, but I think the Leo 2 has been...

Thanks MCG. Nice icon by the way. ;D So lets take our pick of whats there and go with it. http://www.gdls.com/

Agreed. Until we sort out our transport problems, everything else rather pales in comparison. We need money spent in so many places to come UP to a base level that it is hard to look at and not cry. And no, the C-1 is far from being useless. In fact I still think it is a great vehicle, if we...

Lol, Ok ok. We're dealing in semantics. And no, I sure as hell wouldn't want to get my bell (or turret) rung by a 105 sabot. Although I'd probably live with bleeding ears, at least I wouldn't be sucked out a 3" hole. ;D As for the CV90 idea. Alright!!

Good article. Makes you think. However. I did see after the whole thing was over, an interview with Bono on the fact that the organization he works with on this Africa debt thing doesn't actually give the money directly to the countries that need it. They actually have quite a list of...

Good idea Majoor. A "Bison" like LAV III would be perfect for most of the mentioned jobs, and having an armoured front compartment on the flat bed model would be great. Don't the others already exist as models? And if so, then we wouldn't be remaking the wheel, just buying them off the shelf.

Oh my God!! Teddy, you have hit the nail on the head about the MGS and the DFS concept. Everything stated is exactly what myself, and I am sure most here feel towards it. Thanks for putting it all in one easy to read format.  :salute: As for what you said about the C1 Leo. I will not knock the...

Alright. Point taken Teddy. Then I will try to qualify my above statement on the Leo being able to take on a modern equivalent through you. Do you believe if all things being equal, that a Leo C-1 can take on a Leo 2A4, Challenger, M1A2, T-90, Merk, Leclerc, etc...? Also, what is your opinion...

Thanks Lance, Teddy. As I stated to please correct me. You did.  :salute: Rick, take a pill. I may have spent most of my time in a Cougar and Iltis, but unlike most people on courses and around, I paid attention and studied my ass off (usually top 3 or 1/3). My opinions are just that...

Hmmm... Now please correct me if I'm wrong. But I could have sworn I learned somewhere that a 105mm does NOT penetrate a T-72's front armour except under optimal conditions? If this is so, then I would not call this "more than capable". Especially in this world of 1 shot is all you get...

Very true George. The chances of us operating anywhere where such exists is remote. However to discount it in the long term plan is naive as you know, considering what we faced in Bosnia and Croatia, etc... That is the question. The second part could have ravings go on for some time.