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An opportunity for both SAAB and Canada to fully decouple the Gripen from the USA. I don't give a damn about what the USA does, we need to, as a country, be willing to run through a wall to achieve our goals, not cower at the first hint of adversity.

Trump puts tariffs. China retaliates. Trump removes tariffs. China responds. Deal! You don't get credit for putting out the fire you yourself started.

Notice how the French have a indigenous airframe, the Brits as well, as well as the German, and Italians. Even when they buy the F35, they support homegrown fighter capacity. We don't have that. We could have that. Which is why jarnhamar is being intentionally obtuse. The Gripen isn't just...

I love democracy. Hey, maybe if the USA weren't acting like complete assholes on the global stage Canadians would want to buy the F35. But alas.

By not getting any deal with anyone and having the rest of the world including Canada run into the arms of China as the more reasonable global partner is winning?

You're right. Lets buy the Eurofighter.

Trump could not have done a better job strengthening China versus the USA even if he tried.

Just the last 10 seconds. On repeat.

The UK has a mixed fleet. So does the USA. Bad example.

Carney goes to Europe. He gets deals done. Carney goes to the middle east. He gets deals done. Carney goes to China. He gets deals done. Why is negotiations easier with everyone else?

So you think Carney goes with the 13 percent wanting just the F35 and ignores 72 percent wanting some form of Gripen purchase? Okay.

Go with the voters. Carney probably will, and he's PM so he's doing something right.

Could be. Or could be Carney follows the mood of the public Carbon tax unpopular. Gone. Trade with China popular. Done Feminist PM doctrine unpopular. Gone Public wanting a pipeline to the coast. MOU done. I would be surprised if Carney is seeing 72 percent of the public wanting the...

Trump hasn't signed a ratified deal with anyone. Even the EU deal, which was very unlikely to pass the EU parliament is all but dead today. The UK deal just got tariffs tacked on to it The USA is absolutely not interested in any deal with anyone. They are interested in extortion.

Please tell me the last time the USA refused to take military action off the table to acquire Greenland or put tariffs on allies for not helping the USA to acquire Greenland. I'll wait.

Ekos is a pretty reputable polling firm. And again, I'll circle back. The majority of people here were dead agaisnt more trade with China. The public was more on board with trade with China. Carney decided to trade more with China. And trade with China was even less popular than the Gripen...

If he gets sent home suddenly, you know what is about to go down.

72 percent of the public want some form of Gripen purchase. 13 percent want just the F35. Lets see what Carney does here, but I think he follows the public. Especially if it's a easy win in Quebec

Because if you ignore the public you end up like Trudeau or Poilievre. Again, Carney didn't need to make a deal with China. But there was a business case and it's what the population wanted. Lo and behold, he did exactly that. Carney has done a decent job of doing what the voters in polls...

The Question :Will Congress ever step in? The Answer: no. Moving along.