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Okay, here are my thoughts. a. The army is not providing realistic training overall. b. The RTHR is only partial effective. c. In most cases the RTHR is too long. d. The army's training scenario is  decent however it is lacking in some areas. e. The manpower costs of CTC and CMTC are...

I would like to discuss Collective Training (CT) in the army, here are some initial topics I would like to look at: a. Is the army providing realistic training for soldiers deploying overseas? b. Is the Road To High Readiness (RTHR) effective? c. Is RtRH to long?     d. Are the army's...

George I agree with your concerns about wasted money if the purchase is cancel. Everyone Are we or are we not paying for R&D? Some people say we are and some people say we are not. I believe we are paying for R&D.

Wing of Fury I am not offended, I am interested in debating what platform is better for Canada. I have done a bit of research on the subject. I am not bias in my research, I have looked at several different sites from both right and left wing prospective. Why do you think the F-35 is the...

George Wallace I am not saying we should not buy new aircraft, I am saying the F-35 is not worth the cost. I am saying we should look at other aircraft to suit our needs.

According to Jane's Defence Weekly the Typhoon's cost per unit is around 105 million while the F-35 cost per unit is around 134 million. Considering the F-35 is not even production yet, the cost per unit will continue to rise.

Maybe some of you guys can tell me why Canada needs the F-35 instead of other platforms and why is the F-35 worth the 15 billion dollars?

Okay, I will try to explain my view by using the 6 factors you have outlined above. Looking at previous deployment rates for the CF-18 over the last 20 years, lets say at anyone time you 8 aircraft deployed overseas (like Libya), you will likely have another 12 aircraft deployed in Canada...

Sorry... I did meant to imply that you stated that the 65 aircraft will not suit our needs. I meant the factors you brought up are good points, I do not believe the number of aircraft will mean the CF current requirements from the factors you have outlined.

That is my point, these 65 F-35 will not suit our needs as you have outline. So why are we not buying more aircraft of a different type at a less cost?

No, I did not say that.  My major issue with the F-35 is the cost per aircraft. We could purchase 2 or 3 other platforms for the price of one F-35. We could purchase other much needed equipment for the forces if we selected another aircraft. Instead we are putting 15-30 billion dollars into...

Ballz I will elaborate in more detail in all future posts. This was my mistake in the original post to this thread.

If that is the case, why are we ordering 65 aircraft when only a couple of dozen would suit our recent mission objectives?

Everyone I am not trying to be rude or stir up any trouble, I just do not believe the F-35 is the correct choice for the CF. Jim I am not an aeronautical engineer, however I do understand roles and capabilities of most platforms. Brasidas The Typhoon would be my leading choice. Maybe a...

I do not believe the cost per aircraft is beneficial for the forces. The number of aircraft we are not purchasing will not cover our current operating capabilities and mission requirements. The platform has some serious design flaws in my view. I believe we should purchased another platform.

The F-35 is a very poor deal for the military. The forces are getting serious ripped off by this program and this purchase.

From my understanding, you will have a great deal of difficultly becoming an Intelligence Officer because the branch is currently overloaded by 15%  in officer positions. I have recently heard from a friend that the branch is only taking in one or two new officers per year for the next three...

From my understanding, you will have a great deal of difficultly becoming an Intelligence Officer because the branch is currently overloaded by 15%  in officer positions. I do not believe the branch is accepting anymore officers for the next few years.

I got this error tonight: You failed to check in yesterday! -40 Morale However I have been playing all weekend.

Thanks Mike for the quick reply.